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Electric Fuel Pump Question eye rolling smiley
Posted by: oldqmguy ()
Date: August 23, 2019 11:06AM

Now that I have the new Airtex Pump and have moved the engine fuel lines "UP" out of the way of the fan belt I have a set of three hard fuel lines sort of dangling in space!

For those who have done this, HOW do you support these lines?

When using the factory pump they were held tight, one end at the carb, second end at the fuel pump. I don't think letting them 'float in space' is wise.

I am open to any ideas you may have! Please send pictures so I can "see" what you have done!!!

Thanks!

Second question while I am on here: Has anyone changed to AN type Fuel Hose in a Corvair?

I would be interested in the how's and why's of doing this.

Thanks again!

Dale cool smiley

Dale E. Smiley CPBE
Life Member The Society of Broadcast Engineers
RETIRED Broadcast Engineer
CERTIFIED CORVAIR NUT
CORSA/Circle City Corvairs/Corvair Performance Group
Avon, Indiana
WB9SFF
1967 4-Door Monza PG!

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Re: Electric Fuel Pump Question eye rolling smiley
Posted by: AlecCarlson ()
Date: August 23, 2019 11:28AM

A picture of your fuel line runs would be helpful...

I'm using AN-4 fittings and a stainless braided fuel line on my '66 Turbo engine.

Alec

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Re: Electric Fuel Pump Question eye rolling smiley
Posted by: Timothy Shortle ()
Date: August 23, 2019 11:56AM

I have used the "dummy" center section of the fuel pump. Remove the push rods from the pump and the engine. Looks stock and it is safe as well.

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Re: Electric Fuel Pump Question eye rolling smiley
Posted by: solo2r ()
Date: August 23, 2019 01:28PM

140 Airtex 8016s mounted on frame near fuel tank. Tach controlled relay with 3 second initial on time. Momentary toggle switch to prime carbs if sitting for weeks or months. [Blue accelerator pumps as well]
Bypass plate in stock fuel pump and stock type lines.



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Re: Electric Fuel Pump Question eye rolling smiley
Posted by: JimBrandberg ()
Date: August 23, 2019 02:04PM

When I switch the lines to the front of the engine I lash the tee to the bracket that holds the vacuum balance tube to the shroud using a black zip tie or two.
Same principle if the lines are still in the back of the engine. I've gone around the outer edge of the spark plug looms as long as I can keep the zip tie from sliding off.
If I was working on something really nice I suppose I would fabricate a little bracket.

Jim Brandberg
Isanti, MN
CorvairRepair.com



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Re: Electric Fuel Pump Question eye rolling smiley
Posted by: Lane66m ()
Date: August 23, 2019 02:36PM

Here is my fuel line junction up close. No play in the lines, but still have to think about a bracket to support the junction somehow.

Al Lane
Ellabell, GA 31308

1966 Monza Coupe, 110 hp, 4 Spd
1966 Monza More Door 110 hp, PG
1968 Camaro SS Coupe 350 CI 295+ hp PG
1964 Greenbrier Deluxe, 6 dr, 80 hp car engine, PG
1947 Farmall A tractor 15 hp


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Re: Electric Fuel Pump Question eye rolling smiley
Posted by: JimBrandberg ()
Date: August 23, 2019 03:56PM

Yes like in Al's picture I just put a black zip tie or two to the bracket on the vacuum balance tube. It seems like my junction is forward a bit from that picture but it's pretty easy to bend it forward.

Jim Brandberg
Isanti, MN
CorvairRepair.com



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Re: Electric Fuel Pump Question eye rolling smiley
Posted by: Timothy Shortle ()
Date: August 23, 2019 05:12PM

Nice pictures Mark and VERY CLEAN work.

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Re: Electric Fuel Pump Question eye rolling smiley
Posted by: jjohnsonjo ()
Date: August 23, 2019 05:43PM

I used "WELL" nuts to mount mine to the rail.

J.O.

65 Corsa Turbo Vert
79 Honda XL 500S
69 Honda CL 160 D
2010 BMW F 650 GS
2003 Bounder 36D
2013 KIA Optima SX turbo-AKA ZIPPY (wife,s car)
69 Newport Holiday Sailboat
Baja 150 dune buggy cart
Coleman HS 500 UTV
2016 KIA Sorento SXL Turbo

Bethlehem,Pa


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Re: Electric Fuel Pump Question eye rolling smiley
Posted by: JimBrandberg ()
Date: August 24, 2019 08:26PM

J O wrote:

"I used "WELL" nuts to mount mine to the rail."

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Maybe I'm up too late but I can't think what "well" nuts are and I can't think what the rail is. Sorry if I'm obtuse.

Jim Brandberg
Isanti, MN
CorvairRepair.com



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Re: Electric Fuel Pump Question eye rolling smiley
Posted by: JimBrandberg ()
Date: August 24, 2019 08:32PM

I was confused because I have well nuts as riv nuts in my collection.

I'm still foggy on what the rail is and how you used a screw. Thanks.

Jim Brandberg
Isanti, MN
CorvairRepair.com



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Re: Electric Fuel Pump Question eye rolling smiley
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: August 24, 2019 09:03PM

Well nuts RivNuts Nutserts... drill a hole slip it in and Crimp!

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Re: Electric Fuel Pump Question eye rolling smiley
Posted by: Lane66m ()
Date: August 25, 2019 02:35AM

Rail = rear sub-frame.

Al Lane
Ellabell, GA 31308

1966 Monza Coupe, 110 hp, 4 Spd
1966 Monza More Door 110 hp, PG
1968 Camaro SS Coupe 350 CI 295+ hp PG
1964 Greenbrier Deluxe, 6 dr, 80 hp car engine, PG
1947 Farmall A tractor 15 hp


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Re: Electric Fuel Pump Question eye rolling smiley
Posted by: jjohnsonjo ()
Date: August 25, 2019 05:31AM

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J.O.

65 Corsa Turbo Vert
79 Honda XL 500S
69 Honda CL 160 D
2010 BMW F 650 GS
2003 Bounder 36D
2013 KIA Optima SX turbo-AKA ZIPPY (wife,s car)
69 Newport Holiday Sailboat
Baja 150 dune buggy cart
Coleman HS 500 UTV
2016 KIA Sorento SXL Turbo

Bethlehem,Pa


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Re: Electric Fuel Pump Question eye rolling smiley
Posted by: Lane66m ()
Date: August 25, 2019 11:15AM

Same nuts to mount voltage regulator on 68 Camaro

Al Lane
Ellabell, GA 31308

1966 Monza Coupe, 110 hp, 4 Spd
1966 Monza More Door 110 hp, PG
1968 Camaro SS Coupe 350 CI 295+ hp PG
1964 Greenbrier Deluxe, 6 dr, 80 hp car engine, PG
1947 Farmall A tractor 15 hp


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Re: Electric Fuel Pump Question eye rolling smiley
Posted by: JimBrandberg ()
Date: August 25, 2019 03:16PM

Al wrote:

"Rail = rear sub-frame."

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Now I'm even more confused on what was done. I would anchor to the engine and not the chassis since the engine does move around somewhat.

Jim Brandberg
Isanti, MN
CorvairRepair.com



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Re: Electric Fuel Pump Question eye rolling smiley
Posted by: oldqmguy ()
Date: August 26, 2019 11:59AM

Hello! I am back from family business and ready to tackle the Corvair again!

Thanks to everyone's replies. The pictures are great and will help when I get 'down and dirty' under the car! eye rolling smiley

I am still "thinking" about the engine compartment. I will get a picture out later today to show "my" setup. It looks a lot like Al's except I have not made the feed line from the grommet to the Tee! sad smiley

I agree with Jim, I would not anchor it to the chassis because it does move enough to brake the steel lines. I still need to figure that out! confused smiley

My question on AN Hose was based on a crazy idea I had awhile back that would probably work "IF" I can find the right pieces. The one item I would need (actually I would need two of them) is a replacement for the Rochester HV Inlet Nut! eye popping smiley

I am sure I could put in an adapter, 6AN to NPT, but a direct replacement part would be nice. Going over the -AN parts available on the internet I see that they do make ones that fit the pre 74 Rochester Quadrajets! I wonder if it would fit the HV (no one seems to know 'what' an HV carb is!). Probably a waste of money if I go with EFI next year!!! hot smiley

BTW, I know what a "well nut" is, but don't really see how to use them on fuel lines!

Dale cool smiley

Dale E. Smiley CPBE
Life Member The Society of Broadcast Engineers
RETIRED Broadcast Engineer
CERTIFIED CORVAIR NUT
CORSA/Circle City Corvairs/Corvair Performance Group
Avon, Indiana
WB9SFF
1967 4-Door Monza PG!

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Re: Electric Fuel Pump Question eye rolling smiley
Posted by: Brizo ()
Date: August 26, 2019 12:57PM

oldqmguy Wrote:
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> Hello! I am back from family business and ready to tackle the Corvair again!
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> Thanks to everyone's replies. The pictures are great and will help when I get 'down and dirty' under the car! eye rolling smiley
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> I am still "thinking" about the engine compartment. I will get a picture out later today to show "my" setup. It looks a lot like Al's except I have not made the feed line from the grommet to the Tee! sad smiley
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> I agree with Jim, I would not anchor it to the chassis because it does move enough to brake the steel lines. I still need to figure that out! confused smiley
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> I am sure I could put in an adapter, 6AN to NPT, but a direct replacement part would be nice. Going over the -AN parts available on the internet I see that they do make ones that fit the pre 74 Rochester Quadrajets! I wonder if it would fit the HV (no one seems to know 'what' an HV carb is!). Probably a waste of money if I go with EFI next year!!! hot smiley
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> Dale cool smiley

I agree Dale. most guys just use the AN plumbing for looks and its not cheap. If your changing to EFI soon, it would make more sense to stay with the steel tubing for now.

Dan Brizendine,
'64 8door Greenbrier 140 PG. "In beautiful Wanamaker Indiana...with one stop light and 5 pizza shops"

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Re: Electric Fuel Pump Question eye rolling smiley
Posted by: oldqmguy ()
Date: August 29, 2019 09:41PM

Dan is right, I will not waste money on AN hose!

I do have most of the parts for the engine compartment (NO rubber hose in there) except for the Tee that was on the old pump. I went to NAPA and a couple of other FLAPS and found out they are "special order" only!

Ordered from Clark's, so it will be next week before I get back to this project!!!

I hope I don't find any more surprises!

Dale winking smiley

Dale E. Smiley CPBE
Life Member The Society of Broadcast Engineers
RETIRED Broadcast Engineer
CERTIFIED CORVAIR NUT
CORSA/Circle City Corvairs/Corvair Performance Group
Avon, Indiana
WB9SFF
1967 4-Door Monza PG!

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