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Hard hit Spyder salvageable?
Posted by: joelsplace ()
Date: August 10, 2019 07:31PM

Obviously I have plenty of parts but this one is hot really hard. No rust that I can see anywhere. Was a really nice car.

Joel
Northlake, TX
5 Ultravans, Lost count at 100 Corvairs...

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Re: Hard hit Spyder salvageable?
Posted by: joelsplace ()
Date: August 10, 2019 07:33PM

Last picture is hard to see but it wrinkled the rear fender.

Joel
Northlake, TX
5 Ultravans, Lost count at 100 Corvairs...

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Re: Hard hit Spyder salvageable?
Posted by: aircooled6 ()
Date: August 10, 2019 07:57PM

That makes me tear up a little. I hate to see our favorite cars crunched.
More traffic, in bigger trucks and cell phones increase the carnage every darn day.

Everett Wilson
North Richland Hills TX
(Now, South of 820!!)
64 Greenbrier 110 with 95 heads/PG

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Re: Hard hit Spyder salvageable?
Posted by: joelsplace ()
Date: August 10, 2019 08:06PM

That's why I bought it. I didn't want to see it lost if possible. Maybe I can find someone that will do it right for a reasonable amount. I know that will be a lot of cash even at a good deal.
Who am I kidding? I'll buy pretty much anything.

Joel
Northlake, TX
5 Ultravans, Lost count at 100 Corvairs...




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Re: Hard hit Spyder salvageable?
Posted by: The Stig ()
Date: August 10, 2019 08:20PM

I’ve seen a good body guy Fix worse on a ‘69 convertible. Put a front clip off another ‘64 on and I’m sure you have some spares around.

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Re: Hard hit Spyder salvageable?
Posted by: Frank DuVal ()
Date: August 10, 2019 08:27PM

First step is a frame machine and the factory "frame" measurements. Once that is pulled correct, the rest is sheet metal. You want to pull to correct first, before a single piece is cut off (except for access). You have to get the length right that was shortened to make the quarter pucker.

Your frame man will be impressed how tough these are to pull, GM put in more reinforcements than needed in earlies, as they were learning unibody during this time. Lates are easier to pull.grinning smiley

If the frame is made right, it will drive fine!

Frank DuVal

Fredericksburg, VA

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Re: Hard hit Spyder salvageable?
Posted by: TerribleTed ()
Date: August 10, 2019 09:25PM

Might be repairable,but, would be a hard involved repair for sure.

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Re: Hard hit Spyder salvageable?
Posted by: Mel ()
Date: August 11, 2019 04:05AM

Frank DuVal Wrote:
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> First step is a frame machine and the factory "frame" measurements. Once that is pulled correct, the rest is sheet metal. You want to pull to correct first, before a single piece is cut off (except for access). You have to get the length right that was shortened to make the quarter pucker.
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> Your frame man will be impressed how tough these are to pull, GM put in more reinforcements than needed in earlies, as they were learning unibody during this time. Lates are easier to pull.grinning smiley
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> If the frame is made right, it will drive fine!

X2

Orangeville, Ontario. CANADA

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Re: Hard hit Spyder salvageable?
Posted by: caroseiii ()
Date: August 11, 2019 08:44PM

Definitely bent left fender shown by the increased door gap - so the unibody is bent. Great parts car!

Crawford Rose

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Re: Hard hit Spyder salvageable?
Posted by: Frank DuVal ()
Date: August 11, 2019 09:22PM

Unibody (frame) can be straightened. I mentioned that in my reply. If not, most every car on the road today could not be repaired. eye popping smiley

Frank DuVal

Fredericksburg, VA

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Re: Hard hit Spyder salvageable?
Date: August 11, 2019 10:08PM

What year is it, Joel?
I see the '64 front trim bar, but the trunk lid does not have the expected C O R V A I R letters on it.
If it is a '64 it's worth more than an earlier '63 Spyder Convertible - it has a true Spyder Model Number 667 VIN, better suspension, only 4,671 made.


Dan Davis ~ Pierce County, WA ~ CORSA Western Director + Corvairs NW + North Cascades Corvairs + Corvanatics
1966 Corsa Turbo coupe ~ ~ 1966 140 Corsa ~ ~ 1965 Monza 140/4 'Vert Sierra Tan/Fawn ~ 1964 Monza 'Vert (SOLD) ~ 1960 Monza Ermine White/Red PG ++ ~ 1965 Monza 140/4 Evening Orchid w/ ivory/black interior ~ 1962 Monza Wagon 102/4 ~ 1963 Rampside/Scamper ~ 1963 Red/Greenbrier ~ 1969 Ultra Van #468

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Re: Hard hit Spyder salvageable?
Posted by: JimBrandberg ()
Date: August 12, 2019 06:03AM

In days gone by it would have been an easy decision to move along to another chassis. These days with real Spyders being valuable it's not so clearcut. Here in Minnesota it would probably be a Salvage Title so the value of the chassis might go out the window.

I'm a mechanical guy and not a body guy so I would be inclined to swap the mechanicals to a different chassis. Trouble is a good chassis would often have it's own good mechanicals. Maybe not. A solid chassis in the south may be yearning for all those good bits.

Jim Brandberg
Isanti, MN
CorvairRepair.com



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Re: Hard hit Spyder salvageable?
Posted by: joelsplace ()
Date: August 13, 2019 05:36AM

It is a real '64 Spyder with a clear non-salvage title. Funny I didn't even notice the missing hood letters. I did check the body tag, VIN and rivets. It also has the correct fuel filter with return line and rear panel cut out for the exhaust.
I have not checked to see if any of the power top parts are still there. They are not connected if they are because the top goes up and down manually just fine.
It has the fake wood wheel also.
It will be interesting to decode the body tag to see if red was original.

Joel
Northlake, TX
5 Ultravans, Lost count at 100 Corvairs...

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Re: Hard hit Spyder salvageable?
Posted by: cepak ()
Date: August 13, 2019 05:45AM

I'll take the last 12 inches of the body and hood and make wall art out of it.


Tom
DFW, TX

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Re: Hard hit Spyder salvageable?
Posted by: cnicol ()
Date: August 13, 2019 06:52AM

I've repaired similar on several occasions. Most if not all of the body gap issues will disappear when the unibody gets squared-up. In addition to the measurements, bodymen (and women) will watch the gaps as an additional indicator.

Once the unibody is square, they'll cut off the bent stuff and attach "new", straight parts, shoot some paint, and you're good to go.

Craig N. Coeur d'Alene ID.
66 Black Monza 4dr, 4.2L V8 49k
61 Seamist Jade Rampside 140 PG
60 Monza coupe (sold, sniff sniff)
66 Sprint Corsa convt - First car! Re-purchased 43 years later
2+2 gnatsuM 5691

+17 Tons of parts

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Re: Hard hit Spyder salvageable?
Posted by: Frank DuVal ()
Date: August 13, 2019 07:30AM

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Craig
I've repaired similar on several occasions. Most if not all of the body gap issues will disappear when the unibody gets squared-up. In addition to the measurements, bodymen (and women) will watch the gaps as an additional indicator.

Once the unibody is square, they'll cut off the bent stuff and attach "new", straight parts, shoot some paint, and you're good to go.

Yes! All it takes is money, and now the car is worth repairing. A lot easier to fix than the rusty stuff in my yard….angry smiley

Frank DuVal

Fredericksburg, VA

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Re: Hard hit Spyder salvageable?
Posted by: joelsplace ()
Date: August 13, 2019 11:26AM

Here's the body tag. I haven't had a chance to decode it yet.
I did notice it doesn't have the Spyder spare tire bracket.

Joel
Northlake, TX
5 Ultravans, Lost count at 100 Corvairs...




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Re: Hard hit Spyder salvageable?
Date: August 13, 2019 12:21PM

916 = Daytona Blue (dk blue metallic)
732 = Blue Vinyl Bucket Seats interior

joelsplace Wrote:
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> It is a real '64 Spyder with a clear non-salvage title. ....
I did check the body tag, VIN and rivets.

Joel
There should be NO Rivets on the VIN plate.
It was factory spot welded to the door jamb sheetmetal.




Dan Davis ~ Pierce County, WA ~ CORSA Western Director + Corvairs NW + North Cascades Corvairs + Corvanatics
1966 Corsa Turbo coupe ~ ~ 1966 140 Corsa ~ ~ 1965 Monza 140/4 'Vert Sierra Tan/Fawn ~ 1964 Monza 'Vert (SOLD) ~ 1960 Monza Ermine White/Red PG ++ ~ 1965 Monza 140/4 Evening Orchid w/ ivory/black interior ~ 1962 Monza Wagon 102/4 ~ 1963 Rampside/Scamper ~ 1963 Red/Greenbrier ~ 1969 Ultra Van #468



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Re: Hard hit Spyder salvageable?
Posted by: joelsplace ()
Date: August 13, 2019 01:06PM

It is. I was talking about the body tag but blended all the words together in a jumbled confusing mess. Sorry about that.
Blue on blue Spyder. Nice. Why would someone change it??? I guess if I go back to factory paint it would be patriotic.
I've never seen a blue on blue Spyder convertible that I can remember.
What top color?

Joel
Northlake, TX
5 Ultravans, Lost count at 100 Corvairs...

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Re: Hard hit Spyder salvageable?
Posted by: The Stig ()
Date: August 13, 2019 01:40PM

Shame it got painted red. Maybe someone can fix it and paint it back to the original color combo. Its quite the combo.

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