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The Whitewall Conundrum
Posted by: WhenIm64 ()
Date: August 03, 2019 09:28AM

Whitewall tires were at the height of their popularity during the Corvair’s production run, and the majority of Corvairs left the dealer’s lot wearing whitewalls.

Monzas and Corsas, of course, but even 500s and 700s were often equipped with whitewall tires.

The majority of images used in the sales brochures through the years depicted whitewalls on the cars. On the FCs, too!

But I hate whitewalls and always have. The fact that virtually no new car is available with whitewalls pleases me. When I most recently bought tires for my 1966 500 (the blue car pictured below) and whitewalls were the only thing available in a near-stock-size tire, I not only mounted the tires with the whitewalls facing inward but I even painted over the whitewalls with tire black so they could not be seen under the car.

Now, however, I face a conundrum.

I bought a 1965 Monza sedan last month (the yellow car pictured below), and it needs new tires. So I bought the currently-available Maxxis tires that many of us are using when keeping the stock 13-inch wheels. The Maxxis tires are whitewalls, of course, and whitewalls are certainly “correct” for a 1965 Monza sedan.

But as I said, I hate whitewalls. So the question with which I have been wrestling is whether or not to suck it up and put the whitewalls on the car, or duplicate what I did with the 500 and mount them with the whitewalls facing inward.

Now, I know that many of you like whitewalls just fine and so will recommend that I go ahead and put them on the car. And I know that many of will tell me that it is my car and I can do whatever I please. Still others of you will say that I should ditch the stock wheels in favor of larger ones that make greater tire choices available. But my question is simply this: With the stock wheels and wheelcovers, will the car look “wrong” with blackwalls?

I’ve gone back and forth on this question for the past two weeks. Certainly, it is not one of the great issues facing the world today, but it’s driving me nuts. What say you?

(By the way, it is not necessary to confirm that I was nuts already. Please be kind.)

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Re: The Whitewall Conundrum
Posted by: FLSteve ()
Date: August 03, 2019 09:55AM

Sorry to say this but you need to define wrong. As I don't see a wrong or right choice. I have done both and changed the tires at tire rotation with other cars to give the car a changed look.... but that is my right or wrong answer!!!

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Re: The Whitewall Conundrum
Posted by: Paulsgt ()
Date: August 03, 2019 10:13AM

Whitewalls look better with the full wheelcovers. The blackwalls look better with the dog-dish hubcaps. MHO - FWIW.

Enjoy the Corvair!

Paul Sergeant
CORSA Central Division Director / CORSA Treasurer
Lee's Summit, MO
CORSA since 1975
Member – HACOA, Corvair Minnesota, CORSA, Little Indians, POCI




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Re: The Whitewall Conundrum
Posted by: American Mel ()
Date: August 03, 2019 10:14AM

WhenIm64 Wrote:
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But my question is simply this: With the stock wheels and wheelcovers, will the car look “wrong” with blackwalls?
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Simple answer is an emphatic NO!
It will not look wrong.
Sixties cars look great either way.
Unless you are talking about Luxo-barges, like a Caddy, or Chrysler Imperial, etc.
I think it will look just fine with blackwalls.
In fact, it will be less distracting from the beautiful lines of the incredible LM body style.

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'66 Monza Coupe - 4spd, 140 Daily driver beater
'67 Monza Vert. - PG, 140 Daily driver beater
'67 A/C Moredoor Monza - 140 4-spd. driver
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'04 Dodge Cummins Quad Dualy, approaching 400K
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Re: The Whitewall Conundrum
Posted by: mikeycee ()
Date: August 03, 2019 11:07AM

Whole wheel covers definitely go with white wall tires. My '63 Monza in the 60's even had red wall tires....all the rage back then. But today my '67 with it's American Racing 14" ers it's got to be black walls!! Mike eye popping smiley eye popping smiley eye popping smiley

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Re: The Whitewall Conundrum
Posted by: Johnnya101 ()
Date: August 03, 2019 11:08AM

I agree with Paul! Keep em off, looks nicer.

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Re: The Whitewall Conundrum
Posted by: vairchet ()
Date: August 03, 2019 11:31AM

Yup, go for aftermarket oversized wheels and then you'll have better choice of tires. A set of 17" wheels with 50 or 40 profile tires would look pretty good on your 4-door.

Chet in Ramona

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Re: The Whitewall Conundrum
Posted by: joelsplace ()
Date: August 03, 2019 01:50PM

White walls, white letters, white anything goes inside. Easy decision. I run them that way with stock size tires and stock full wheel covers.

Joel
Northlake, TX
5 Ultravans, Lost count at 100 Corvairs...

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Re: The Whitewall Conundrum
Posted by: gbirk1 ()
Date: August 03, 2019 02:53PM

I say NO WHITEWALLS! Just my preference...

Now, if you mount them whitewalls in, you can always change your mind and remount them with the whitewalls out.

Gregg Birkholz
Canaan, CT.

1967 Monza 110 PG Convertible
2013 Chevy Malibu (Wife's DD)
1993 Cadillac Deville
2012 GMC Sierra 1500 Crew Cab
1997 Mazda Miata STO (Wife's fun car)
1989 Cadillac Deville (parts car)
2008 Buick LaCrosse (DD)

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Re: The Whitewall Conundrum
Posted by: jjohnsonjo ()
Date: August 03, 2019 03:29PM

Spent a lot of time thinking about my latest configuration, happy with my final choice, I always say your car your choice. In this case, my car my choice.

J.O.

65 Corsa Turbo Vert
79 Honda XL 500S
69 Honda CL 160 D
2010 BMW F 650 GS
2003 Bounder 36D
2013 KIA Optima SX turbo-AKA ZIPPY (wife,s car)
69 Newport Holiday Sailboat
Baja 150 dune buggy cart
Coleman HS 500 UTV
2016 KIA Sorento SXL Turbo

Bethlehem,Pa


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Re: The Whitewall Conundrum
Posted by: eddieb ()
Date: August 03, 2019 04:05PM

I specifically looked for blackwall for my '60 "500" sedan,looks more like it was ordered when new. A pet peave of mine concerns wide whites on early pick-ups. I know it makes them more sale-able but really how many farmers ordered their pick-up with WWW? EddieB Dade City,Fl

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Re: The Whitewall Conundrum
Posted by: flamingchariots ()
Date: August 04, 2019 06:41AM

With the stock wheels and wheelcovers, will the car look “wrong” with blackwalls?

My answer: Yes, because it will look like something is missing.

Options:
1) You could use beauty rings with blackwalls...
2) Sell the car to me!

Kevin
Medina, OH

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Re: The Whitewall Conundrum
Posted by: firevair66 ()
Date: August 04, 2019 05:07PM

All depends on the car and wheel combo.

John Shoemaker,Riegelsville,PA.
1958 Impala Sport Cp. 348 ,pg/ac
61 Rampside full custom show truck
65 Monza 110/4 vert driver
65 Full Custom Monza 140 Cp
66 Monza 110/PG Vert
66 Corsa FITCH SPRINT Documented ( in Process,recondition)
66 CorV8 350 "firevair"Custom Show




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Re: The Whitewall Conundrum
Posted by: vairsUPnorth ()
Date: August 04, 2019 07:33PM

Personally I do not prefer whitewalls either but in some cases they seem appropriate. The photo of your LM Monza Sport Sedan with the associated chrome trim and full wheel covers looks "right" to me with the narrow whitewall tires. Your 500 coupe with minimal chrome and simple hub caps looks absolutely correct with blackwalls. With some kind of sport or performance wheel (or Mag covers) the current blackwall or RWL tires seem right to my eye. The case of our '67 500 delivered from the factory with two-tone paint and full wheel covers is a question. I prefer the correct sized blackwalls I fitted to the car, but some would prefer whitewalls in this instance.

Dale Dewald
Hancock, MI


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Re: The Whitewall Conundrum
Posted by: dolomitefan ()
Date: August 05, 2019 01:17AM

I'm not s huge fan of full whitewalls. I had a similar conundrum when replacing the GB tyres. There were plenty of blackwalls available and much cheaper but ended up going for white band tyres so a happy compromise. My GB is a STD model so the white bands give it a bit of luxury!

On the cars, they do look better with a whitewall, more period but it's a matter of choice. If you do go blackwall though, you gotta have some nice wheel covers.

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Mark Gibson, Staffordshire, England

1961 Corvair Greenbrier
1980 Triumph Dolomite Sprint
2009 Mazda MX5
2018 Infiniti Q30

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Re: The Whitewall Conundrum
Posted by: guthrie1068 ()
Date: August 05, 2019 07:00AM

First world problems! cool smileyI like the blackwalls.

Chad Guthrie
Onondaga, MI
'63 convertible

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Re: The Whitewall Conundrum
Posted by: irfgt ()
Date: August 06, 2019 11:11AM

I wish that was my only worry in this world!

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Re: The Whitewall Conundrum
Posted by: volleybob ()
Date: August 06, 2019 05:16PM

I'm not even sure why you are asking this question. Other posts have stated "no right or wrong" etc. If you HATE whites, do what you have already done, turn them AROUND to the BLACK side.

Bob Bacchi - SDCC

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Re: The Whitewall Conundrum
Posted by: stitch ()
Date: August 06, 2019 05:40PM

Black wall with raise white letters. Just MY .02!

"If you can't fix it with a Hammer, you have an Electrical problem."
Stitch...
Schertz, Texas.
(Smallish town/burg 17 mi. NE of San Antonio)

'Ms Penny'
!967.. 4th body
8th off the line

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Re: The Whitewall Conundrum
Posted by: 19sixty5 ()
Date: August 06, 2019 06:03PM

My preferences...
dog-dish hubcaps go with blackwalls
wheel covers go with whitewalls (not wide whites) or white letters

But, opinions vary and I say whatever works for you, After all it is your car!

65 Crown Hardtop

Huntsville, AL

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