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Re: O/T-2020 C8 Mid Engine V8 Corvette
Posted by: Phil Dally ()
Date: July 21, 2019 12:34PM

Ya...I suppose that Furd is toast too.

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Re: O/T-2020 C8 Mid Engine V8 Corvette
Posted by: 66vairman ()
Date: July 21, 2019 02:54PM

Proposed C8 convertible -- [www.autospies.com]

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Re: O/T-2020 C8 Mid Engine V8 Corvette
Posted by: ROD ()
Date: July 21, 2019 04:01PM

So when does Seth take delivery of his new vette ? I call shotgun!

Rod Tetrault
El Cajon , CA
65 Corsa Yenko Clone / 65 Corsa EO Creampuff Vert
66 Corsa "JIMISH" Mid engine Turbo LS1 currently 2nd fastest Corvair in the USA
Class 5 Corvair powered Baja
61 Vintage Rampy
Corvair powered Buggy x 3
Enough hidden parts to build a space ship

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Re: O/T-2020 C8 Mid Engine V8 Corvette
Posted by: Curtis ()
Date: July 26, 2019 02:16PM

It ticks all the boxes, for $60k. The $60k will be the problem.

Don't know about everyone else, but Vettes are a dime-a-dozen. Seeing a super car is a treat - even the NSX. These will become a plague on the motoring scene and has the potential to cheapen the thrill of seeing something mid-engine - fighting for top spot on the annoyance ranking with Tesla.


Don't get me wrong, I think the car is a triumph. Unintended consequences. My .02.

Curtis

64 Spyder Covertible
Milwaukee, Wi

Former Corvairs
62 Monza 900 Coupe (102/4)
64 Monza 900 Covertible (110/PG)
65 Monza Coupe (110/PG)
66 Monza Coupe (110/PG)
66 Monza Sedan (95/PG)

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Re: O/T-2020 C8 Mid Engine V8 Corvette
Posted by: Phil Dally ()
Date: July 26, 2019 04:25PM

I agree with Curtis...just what we need.

More annoying hoytee toytee Corvette owners.

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Re: O/T-2020 C8 Mid Engine V8 Corvette
Posted by: gnrand ()
Date: July 27, 2019 08:07PM

My friend works with GM on various projects; he would wait a year or two before buying one so they can iron out issues. One that they currently have is the suspension can not handle the top speed of the car.
I wonder about the efficiency of the cooling system. Also the rear lights look more like a Camaro.

Jeff

Wildomar,Ca

1965 Corsa Hard Top
!965 Corsa Convertible
1968 Monza 140 Convertible 4 speed sold
1966 435 HP Crown
1986 Buick GN

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Re: O/T-2020 C8 Mid Engine V8 Corvette
Posted by: OttawaCorvairGuy ()
Date: July 27, 2019 08:20PM

gnrand Wrote:
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> My friend works with GM on various projects; he would wait a year or two before buying one so they can iron out issues. One that they currently have is the suspension can not handle the top speed of the car.
> I wonder about the efficiency of the cooling system. Also the rear lights look more like a Camaro.
>
> Jeff


Jeff,

I too would tell people to wait 2 to 3 years minimum, when I was a line mechanic for GM dealership.
The Citation and the newer design Camaro, of the 80's, had tons of issues they had to work the bugs out.

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Re: O/T-2020 C8 Mid Engine V8 Corvette
Posted by: 2manyvairs ()
Date: July 27, 2019 08:40PM

Cooling has been a big issue with the C8. Even after short winter drives the sides and top of the car around the engine were "fry an egg" hot - way to hot to touch the car. Interior is VERY tight and difficult to get in and out of. I'm 6.0 ft tall and if there were a manual trans there is no way I could have used the clutch. I spent 2 yrs working on the C8 and am no fan of it compared to the C7.
As a engine calibration engineer for small block cars I drove the C7 daily year round (including through Michigan winters)for 5 yrs. The car is a great daily driver. I stopped on the way home from work and picked up sets of 4 tires twice - one 13" set and 1 14" set. They fit in the back area no problem. On another stop I picked up a 17ft step/extension ladder and 6 bundles of shingles, also fit in the car with no problem.

The things I really liked about the C7 are things Corvette buyers don't care about. Cargo capacity and that the car would get 40mpg on hwy cruise in 4 cyl mode. The base model 7spd manual was my favorite - nice ride and great handling. The Z51 package rode rougher due to the larger wheel/tire size. The Supercharged Z06 and ZR1 were just overkill for street use. Too much wheel spin trying to launch them as traction control responded too slowly. Even with the base 450hp LT1 it was hard to find the opportunity to "open it up" on public roads.

So everyone is all gaga about a mid engine car that now has no storage room, no more incredible mpg for a performance car, much more cramped interior, and less visibility. The "small block" will be gone shortly and there will be no supercharged version. After the LT2 the plan is to go to dohc engines with a twin turbo for the high hp versions and a hybrid version. The plan is also to make up for the low initial base price by gaining $ back on the higher performance versions.

I'll miss that antiquated up front engined awesome commuter car though.

Jeff


1960 700 sedan - blue, #1819
1962 Monza sedan - black w/red cloth interior daily driver
1962 Monza coupe - silver blue/blue 4spd
1963 Greenbrier - standard, "Turdbrier"
1963 Monza cvt - Ivy Green/Fawn It's NOT red !!
1964 Monza coupe - red/black, 95hp pg, 54k miles 3rd owner
1964 Spyder cvt - Blk/Red It's NOT red either !!
1965 Monza ht - retired daily driver, the storage shed
1965 Corsa 140 ht - all good except for how it looks.
1965 Corsa 180 cvt - well, a perfect body at least.
1966 Corsa 140 ht - Red/Red, Canadian w/factory headrests & oil bath,

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Re: O/T-2020 C8 Mid Engine V8 Corvette
Posted by: joelsplace ()
Date: July 28, 2019 01:51AM

Why would the MPG suffer?

Joel
Northlake, TX
5 Ultravans, Lost count at 100 Corvairs...

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Re: O/T-2020 C8 Mid Engine V8 Corvette
Posted by: 2manyvairs ()
Date: July 28, 2019 11:03AM

The mpg will be less due to reduced availability in 4 cyl mode. The vehicle is heavier so higher load vs mph. The autos have more nvh issues so more limited 4 cyl operation that what the manual trans cars had. The new software for the new controller also has features that prevent being able to be as precise with the calibration as far as spark compensation for cam position, intake air and coolant temp, and other adjustments.

The 4cyl mode worked great on the C7 manual as for road loads over 70mph the vehicle could stay in 4 cyl mode and load was still low enough that the spark advance wasn't knock limited. Why the Camaro's and trucks could not get 30 mpg on the hwy let alone 40. The trucks have gone to an advanced system to allow running on 5 and 6 cylinders to help mpg.

Jeff


1960 700 sedan - blue, #1819
1962 Monza sedan - black w/red cloth interior daily driver
1962 Monza coupe - silver blue/blue 4spd
1963 Greenbrier - standard, "Turdbrier"
1963 Monza cvt - Ivy Green/Fawn It's NOT red !!
1964 Monza coupe - red/black, 95hp pg, 54k miles 3rd owner
1964 Spyder cvt - Blk/Red It's NOT red either !!
1965 Monza ht - retired daily driver, the storage shed
1965 Corsa 140 ht - all good except for how it looks.
1965 Corsa 180 cvt - well, a perfect body at least.
1966 Corsa 140 ht - Red/Red, Canadian w/factory headrests & oil bath,

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Re: O/T-2020 C8 Mid Engine V8 Corvette
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: July 28, 2019 11:13AM

Yup!! Rented a '17 Silverado 1500 4wd. Hauling small Lathe... 70-75 on I-5 in the Central valley of Cal. 38 mpg.

2manyV.... it said " Best in 50 miles" was that the Average for a 50 mile span?

2200 mile trip...filled 3 times... and topped off before returning... $60-$75 per fill at $3.80 gal.

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Re: O/T-2020 C8 Mid Engine V8 Corvette
Posted by: wv-geo ()
Date: July 28, 2019 03:18PM

I've read that the weight distribution of the new Vette is 40/60.
This gives the new Vette better acceleration because of the weight
transfer to the rear, and shorter braking distance with weight transfer
to the front.

Wonder where I've heard this before? spinning smiley sticking its tongue out

One negative I've heard for the new C8 is accessibility to the engine for
service compared to the C7.
Once the vehicle out of warranty, how much will it cost to replace the alternator, water pump, or even the serpentine belt?
How about spark plugs?
Engine compartment looks a little cramped to me.

Dan Stark
Hurricane, WV

1961 Lakewood 500, 80HP, PG
1964 Corvair 500 Coupe, 140HP, 4spd (Christine)
1965 Mustang Coupe, 6cyl, 3spd

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Re: O/T-2020 C8 Mid Engine V8 Corvette
Posted by: MtnVairMike ()
Date: July 29, 2019 06:40AM

OttawaCorvairGuy Wrote:
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> I'll say it again.
> With mass production of these, over time it will help make it much easier for someone to install, into a LM Corvair, a complete power-plant like this, with everything needed, including the steering wheel.
>
> The leg room and performance that this will provide, in a Corvair, should be a great improvement vs any thing built to this point.
>
> But I've been wondering what the results of weight ratio at the four corners will end up being.
> Will it be an improvement with the power-plant sitting father back towards the rear tires vs all the previous mid-engine V8 builds or not?

40/60 front/rear weight distribution according to early articles.
Sounds familiar to Corvair specs to me.

Mike

1966 Monza Convertible, 140HP-4 speed, Ermine White

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Re: O/T-2020 C8 Mid Engine V8 Corvette
Posted by: shomeyrwit ()
Date: July 29, 2019 10:06PM

Anyone else notice the wheelbase is only .08" shorter than a 65 to 69...


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Re: O/T-2020 C8 Mid Engine V8 Corvette
Posted by: OttawaCorvairGuy ()
Date: August 11, 2019 05:34AM

The first wrecked 2020 Corvette...

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