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Entry light on LM 67 500
Posted by: Ron62 ()
Date: July 08, 2019 01:15PM

Does anyone know if the LM 500 models included a switch and wiring for the interior light to come on when opening the drivers door? I have a hole where a switch would go but There in none in the car. It has a dome light which works manually off the headlight switch when turning CCW. Just wondering if the wiring harness included the connectors.

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Re: Entry light on LM 67 500
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: July 08, 2019 01:29PM

I believe that was in the Monza harnesses.. [ courtesy lights / fuze panel] ?

To have one... just get the door switch / pull your A-pillar cover and join to the white wire?

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Re: Entry light on LM 67 500
Posted by: Timothy Shortle ()
Date: July 08, 2019 04:24PM

Seems 67 would be new enough to have that feature as standard equipment. I don't know for sure nor do I know what year this would be but I suspect (maybe) all the LMs would have this. Hopefully someone more in the know will state this.

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Re: Entry light on LM 67 500
Posted by: cnicol ()
Date: July 08, 2019 06:13PM

Door switches are a Monza/Corsa thing in late models. Here's copy from the '68 dealer album:

Craig N. Coeur d'Alene ID.
66 Black Monza 4dr, 4.2L V8 49k
61 Seamist Jade Rampside 140 PG
60 Monza coupe (sold, sniff sniff)
66 Sprint Corsa convt - First car! Re-purchased 43 years later
2+2 gnatsuM 5691

+17 Tons of parts

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Re: Entry light on LM 67 500
Posted by: Phil Dally ()
Date: July 08, 2019 07:17PM

Gem (1966 500 Sport Sedan) has door jamb switches and I'm sure they are original.

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Re: Entry light on LM 67 500
Posted by: cnicol ()
Date: July 08, 2019 08:09PM

Phil wrote: "I'm sure they are original."

Craig replies: I'm pretty sure they are not original. Very easy to add: they just screw-in.

Here's copy from the '66 dealer album:

Craig N. Coeur d'Alene ID.
66 Black Monza 4dr, 4.2L V8 49k
61 Seamist Jade Rampside 140 PG
60 Monza coupe (sold, sniff sniff)
66 Sprint Corsa convt - First car! Re-purchased 43 years later
2+2 gnatsuM 5691

+17 Tons of parts

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Re: Entry light on LM 67 500
Posted by: Frank DuVal ()
Date: July 08, 2019 08:46PM

Back then the dealer could install the switches for a few bucks. Usually the white wire was hanging near the switch location, and you simply found the wire, stuck it through the hole, plugged it into the switch and screwed the switch in the hole.

At least that was how I did all my Biscaynes! (62, 64 and two 66s)

Frank DuVal

Fredericksburg, VA

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Re: Entry light on LM 67 500
Posted by: Ron62 ()
Date: July 09, 2019 04:07AM

The holes are already in the door jams. Ill see if I can figure our the thread and pick up the proper switches. Ill most likely add the glove compartment light also.

-Ron

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Re: Entry light on LM 67 500
Posted by: Phil Dally ()
Date: July 09, 2019 04:56AM

Dealer added parts are original parts.

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Re: Entry light on LM 67 500
Posted by: cnicol ()
Date: July 09, 2019 06:36AM

Phil Dally Wrote:
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> Dealer added parts are original parts.

Oh. I didn't know you had the invoice.

Craig N. Coeur d'Alene ID.
66 Black Monza 4dr, 4.2L V8 49k
61 Seamist Jade Rampside 140 PG
60 Monza coupe (sold, sniff sniff)
66 Sprint Corsa convt - First car! Re-purchased 43 years later
2+2 gnatsuM 5691

+17 Tons of parts

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Re: Entry light on LM 67 500
Posted by: Phil Dally ()
Date: July 09, 2019 07:29AM

Simple statement of fact Craig.

Dealer added parts are original.

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Re: Entry light on LM 67 500
Posted by: Phil Dally ()
Date: July 09, 2019 07:46AM

To me the next obvious questions are.

Did 500 come with door switches holes?

Or were the holes drilled by the dealer?

I now know of six late 500 Sport Sedans.

Some with door jamb switches...some not.

Was the electrical harness fitting in a 500?

Or did the dealer cut and splice that fitting?


edit: harness question



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/09/2019 07:50AM by Phil Dally.

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Re: Entry light on LM 67 500
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: July 09, 2019 07:54AM

Phil.... look at yours! you have a rack and can stand while searching! GGG

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Re: Entry light on LM 67 500
Posted by: Phil Dally ()
Date: July 09, 2019 08:01AM

That wont answer the hole in the jamb question.

I sent viewmaster a P/M with these questions.

He also has a late 500 Sport Sedan...seven!!

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Re: Entry light on LM 67 500
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: July 09, 2019 08:03AM

Measure the location of the hole with Y-Z??

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Re: Entry light on LM 67 500
Posted by: Frank DuVal ()
Date: July 09, 2019 08:07AM

I have not noticed a door jamb/A pillar without the holes for switches. There is a rubber/plastic plug in the ones without switches.

The hole is not drilled, but punched in a way that makes the thread area longer. Hard for a dealer to perform that operation after the car is built.

When I mounted a mirror on my 62 Biscayne (in 1973, never had an outside mirror for the first 11 years of its life), dad showed me how to use an icepick to make the holes, thereby giving more surface area for the sheet metal screw to grab the door. We did drill a very small hole to start, using the "cordless drill" of the day, a Breast Drill!.eye popping smiley

Frank DuVal

Fredericksburg, VA

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Re: Entry light on LM 67 500
Posted by: cnicol ()
Date: July 09, 2019 08:17AM

Phil Dally Wrote:
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> Simple statement of fact Craig.
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> Dealer added parts are original.


What makes you think it was dealer-added? Could be but it was only in the dealer's hands for a short time, days or months, and it's been out in the world for 53 years.

Craig N. Coeur d'Alene ID.
66 Black Monza 4dr, 4.2L V8 49k
61 Seamist Jade Rampside 140 PG
60 Monza coupe (sold, sniff sniff)
66 Sprint Corsa convt - First car! Re-purchased 43 years later
2+2 gnatsuM 5691

+17 Tons of parts

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Re: Entry light on LM 67 500
Posted by: Phil Dally ()
Date: July 09, 2019 08:40AM

The only previous owner we don't know is the lady who purchased Gem.

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Re: Entry light on LM 67 500
Posted by: Timothy Shortle ()
Date: July 09, 2019 09:10AM

DEALER ADDED PARTS ARE ORIGINAL factory parts IF they chose to use them. I worked in a new car dealer back in the 80s and for awhile some parts manager thought he could do better with some aftermarket stuff. And that is what we installed ON NEW CARS. I have to agree with Frank on his reply stating some dealers would just add them to their cars to hoodwink the buyers into thinking they got more bang for the buck than if they went to a different dealer. BTW, interesting topic here.

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Re: Entry light on LM 67 500
Posted by: Phil Dally ()
Date: July 09, 2019 09:15AM

Do we get to ask which new car dealer that was Tim?

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