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OT: 1970 V8 UltraVan #522 for sale in MN
Posted by: owen ()
Date: June 06, 2019 07:03AM

forsale

(not mine)

Some assembly required:
http://www.corvair.org/chapters/ultravan/used/used522.html

Safe travels!
OWen



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/06/2019 07:19AM by MattNall.

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Re: OT: 197 V8 UltraVan #522 for sale in MN
Posted by: joelsplace ()
Date: June 06, 2019 07:05AM

That's on Tony's side of the country.

Joel
Northlake, TX
5 Ultravans, Lost count at 100 Corvairs...

Re: OT: 1970 V8 UltraVan #522 for sale in MN
Posted by: JimBrandberg ()
Date: June 06, 2019 05:11PM

I didn't know there was a V-8 Ultra Van in St. Paul.

There's another Corvair one that was near St. Paul but was sold to White Bear Lake. The young fellow was going to convert it to electric power. Someone told me recently that it's for sale again. I've never seen it but heard it was not in good condition.

Jim Brandberg
Isanti, MN
CorvairRepair.com



Re: OT: 197 V8 UltraVan #522 for sale in MN
Posted by: CorvairHaven ()
Date: June 06, 2019 05:54PM

joelsplace Wrote:
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> That's on Tony's side of the country.




Wrong country. eye rolling smiley

18 hour drive and 1000+ miles away from Tony.

Re: OT: 197 V8 UltraVan #522 for sale in MN
Posted by: owen ()
Date: June 06, 2019 06:04PM

Apparently it's actually located somewhere up nort. The owner just lives in St Paul.

Re: OT: 1970 V8 UltraVan #522 for sale in MN
Posted by: joelsplace ()
Date: June 06, 2019 08:36PM

It's North of the Red River. That's all the Arctic Cicle.

Joel
Northlake, TX
5 Ultravans, Lost count at 100 Corvairs...

Re: OT: 1970 V8 UltraVan #522 for sale in MN
Posted by: JimBrandberg ()
Date: June 07, 2019 04:27AM

It looks pretty good if you can see past all the work that needs to be done.

I suppose some sort of an arrangement where you jack it way up supported by cross beams and then back a flat trailer under it, sort of like moving a house.

It would be quite the undertaking to put it back together when you're not the one who took it apart. You would have to be quite resourceful and well versed in how things work.

Maybe you could spend weekends up north camping out and assembling an Ultra Van. You could make a scrapbook and move things around with logs and leverage. Hale fellow well met and all that.

I'm curious where the engine mounts and what happens after a universal joint on the back of the transmission.

I'm interested in Ultra Vans because of the Corvair thing but a V-8 with a 4 speed automatic transmission sounds intriguing.

I don't like the brown around the headlights but that would be the least of the problems.

Jim Brandberg
Isanti, MN
CorvairRepair.com



Re: OT: 1970 V8 UltraVan #522 for sale in MN
Posted by: owen ()
Date: June 07, 2019 04:59AM

On factory V8s, the engine is mounted backwards with the fan aft. The transmission feeds into the marine V-Drive (which is mounted on the front bulkhead), which then feeds back to the differential and axle.

Owen

Re: OT: 1970 V8 UltraVan #522 for sale in MN
Posted by: joelsplace ()
Date: June 07, 2019 07:56AM

The transmission output goes straight into the V drive through a u-joint. The engine cradle is a bunch of really thick iron that looks like they were attempting to add as much weight as possible. It is the opposite of the Ultravan philosophy. I've never had mine out to weigh it but if I do I want to redesign it and use aluminum.

Joel
Northlake, TX
5 Ultravans, Lost count at 100 Corvairs...

Re: OT: 1970 V8 UltraVan #522 for sale in MN
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: June 07, 2019 08:02AM

Joel.. and it has a Corvette Differential?

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Re: OT: 1970 V8 UltraVan #522 for sale in MN
Posted by: owen ()
Date: June 07, 2019 08:17AM

Factory V8s used a C3 Corvette differential, axles, brakes, & trailing arms. Original engine was a small block 307 cid V8 (which was never used in a Corvette AFAIK).

The V8 installation was designed at the Ultra Inc. factory, after Peterson had retired back to CA. The head engineer was Chuck Burgess, who is better known as the production manager of Luscombe Aircraft during WWII. Chuck is also responsible for the design of the Tiara motorhome - which has almost nothing in common with the UltraVan except it was built at the same time in the same factory.

Joel has a factory V8 (#530) that has been modified with a modern 4.3 liter V6. Not sure how much is original and how much is changed.

Owen

Re: OT: 1970 V8 UltraVan #522 for sale in MN
Posted by: joelsplace ()
Date: June 07, 2019 11:47AM

It has the C3 differential, brakes and suspension with lengthened strut rods and driveshaft. The factory also added another solid link to the trailing arm to make sure the suspension binds up. Obviously not designed by anyone that understood suspension.

Joel
Northlake, TX
5 Ultravans, Lost count at 100 Corvairs...

Re: OT: 1970 V8 UltraVan #522 for sale in MN
Posted by: JimBrandberg ()
Date: June 07, 2019 02:37PM

Isn't the 307 sort of a low budget engine choice?
350 or 4.3 V-6 sounds like a better choice. 3.8 from a Buick maybe.

Jim Brandberg
Isanti, MN
CorvairRepair.com



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