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OT - Need Help with Tie-Down Straps
Posted by: OttawaCorvairGuy ()
Date: May 12, 2019 04:04PM

OT - Means off topic of Corvairs.
IF you Only to want to read about Corvairs - please find another thread. ggg

IF you are willing to help a fellow car guy out - please read on and Thank You.


hot smiley I finally purchased a trailer last week. hot smiley

I could use some help from those with more first hand knowledge than I have.
NOTE: I've only used U-Haul car trailers.

IMPORTANT: I have to use tie-downs that can attach to the side of the trailer and NOT directly in front and/or behind the tires themselves.

However, my concern is that they could slip off.


Here are the TWO styles I'm currently looking at and the FIRST ONE is the one I'm thinking of getting.





hot smiley WILL I BE OKAY USING EITHER STYLE ABOVE? hot smiley



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/12/2019 04:06PM by OttawaCorvairGuy.

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Re: OT - Need Help with Tie-Down Straps
Posted by: OttawaCorvairGuy ()
Date: May 12, 2019 04:17PM

I will be using Stack Pocket D-rings too.


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Re: OT - Need Help with Tie-Down Straps
Posted by: joelsplace ()
Date: May 12, 2019 08:30PM

I've had trouble with the top style sliding down the wheel which loosens them.
You want to be sure the side of the strap on the inside of the wheel is down against the suspension.
If you are picking up something that hasn't run in a while and the tire leaks down you may lose the strap.
I like the ones that loop around the control arm and hook back to themselves. Get some RTJ hooks also and you can usually hook into the body or frame somewhere.
I haven't used the bottom style.

Joel
Northlake, TX
4 Ultravans, Lost count at 100 Corvairs...

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Re: OT - Need Help with Tie-Down Straps
Posted by: rowin4 ()
Date: May 12, 2019 09:02PM

I wouldn't use ether type with a offset pull. I have used that type of strapping with track attachment under the tire so it was secured both front and back of the tire.

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Re: OT - Need Help with Tie-Down Straps
Posted by: OttawaCorvairGuy ()
Date: May 12, 2019 09:05PM

joelsplace Wrote:
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> I've had trouble with the top style sliding down the wheel which loosens them.
> You want to be sure the side of the strap on the inside of the wheel is down against the suspension.
> If you are picking up something that hasn't run in a while and the tire leaks down you may lose the strap.
> I like the ones that loop around the control arm and hook back to themselves. Get some RTJ hooks also and you can usually hook into the body or frame somewhere.
> I haven't used the bottom style.


Joel,

Thank for the info.

BTW - My new deck-over is mainly for hauling UVs and as you know they don't have frames and it is best not to use the control arms to tie down from.

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Re: OT - Need Help with Tie-Down Straps
Posted by: OttawaCorvairGuy ()
Date: May 13, 2019 07:34AM

hot smiley hot smiley Just purchased the Tire Straps and Stake Pocket D-rings, so I'll have them when I take delivery of my new trailer.. hot smiley hot smiley

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Re: OT - Need Help with Tie-Down Straps
Posted by: joelsplace ()
Date: May 14, 2019 05:24PM

Rowin4's suggestion for the tracks would be the best way on an Ultra. Since you have a wood deck you could run angle iron from side to side under the wood with bolts through to the tracks. I have used something similar to your top picture to haul Ultras but I had to stop often and adjust/tighten the straps. Without the tracks you are still stressing the Ultra. The tracks will allow you to tie down just the wheel and the Ultra will float on the suspension just like driving it.

Joel
Northlake, TX
4 Ultravans, Lost count at 100 Corvairs...

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Re: OT - Need Help with Tie-Down Straps
Posted by: VairKing ()
Date: May 14, 2019 06:29PM

The e tracks are sweet. Until you want to haul a load of mulch or dirt or sand. If you just use for cars and big things, e track is the way to go

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Re: OT - Need Help with Tie-Down Straps
Posted by: Frank DuVal ()
Date: May 14, 2019 07:12PM

I just wanted to add that if you are discussing trailering your Corvair car, truck or Ultravan, this is ON Topic!smileys with beer

I have no experience with either style. No help here....sad smiley

Frank DuVal

Fredericksburg, VA

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Re: OT - Need Help with Tie-Down Straps
Posted by: OttawaCorvairGuy ()
Date: May 16, 2019 08:19AM

For years my plan has been to have a Deck-over trailer where I could use it to haul hay from our farm and to transport UVs when needed.

I'm happy that I finally was able to get what I wanted.
I will be picking it up this summer.
I only plan to use either the side rails and/or pocket D-rings for tying loads down.

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Re: OT - Need Help with Tie-Down Straps
Posted by: jcorvair ()
Date: May 16, 2019 10:31AM

I laid Etrack inside my car hauler and use over the tire ratchet straps that anchor in front and behind the tire and then extend to the D-Rings. I also attach to the suspension for extra safety. The top picture is what a lot of transport companies use for new cars too.

James
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Re: OT - Need Help with Tie-Down Straps
Posted by: Kyle_in_Mich ()
Date: May 16, 2019 11:28AM

I assume that isn't a picture of your trailer is it? I think a late model would high center getting on there, let alone an UV.

Might be wrong though, or just the angle is goofy. Glad you got the trailer you have been wanting! Maybe one day I will invest in one, but I know it will lead to me bringing home cars I otherwise shouldn't...

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Re: OT - Need Help with Tie-Down Straps
Posted by: joelsplace ()
Date: May 16, 2019 11:41AM

You just have to raise the front of the trailer or find a low spot for the wheels.

Joel
Northlake, TX
4 Ultravans, Lost count at 100 Corvairs...

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Re: OT - Need Help with Tie-Down Straps
Posted by: OttawaCorvairGuy ()
Date: May 16, 2019 02:24PM

Kyle_in_Mich Wrote:
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> I assume that isn't a picture of your trailer is it? I think a late model would high center getting on there, let alone an UV.
>
> Might be wrong though, or just the angle is goofy. Glad you got the trailer you have been wanting! Maybe one day I will invest in one, but I know it will lead to me bringing home cars I otherwise shouldn't...


I think they provide the ramps for things like ATVs.

I will load the UV on this the same way I do on a tractor trailer.

Use a rollback to pick up the UV, then back up to the deck-over trailer and roll the UV unto the deck-over and tie it down.

Tony
(Ottawa Area - Canada)

(1) Marie's 1962 Convertible and our 1966 Ultravan #248 (aka Itchy Feet - Long Restoration)
(2) Our 1963 Rampside (Sold 2014) and 1967 Ultravan #256 at Upper Canada Valley car show in 2009.
(UV256 aak Itchy Feet II - corvair power plant came out 2012 - plans with donor for a GM 3.8L FWD conversion, as a gas pusher, in the back of UV256)
(3 & 4) Are some of our 11 Corvair parts cars - to help keep our stuff on the road - hopefully as long as we live. ;-)
(5) Is one of our Wayne 100 boats (Corvair powered) SOLD - August 2018
(6) Nov 14, 2012 Ultravans #362 and #512 arrived. We are getting closer to our goal of having an Ultravan museum.
We now own; UV248, UV256, UV362, UV512, and UV520 will hopefully be here July 2013.
(7) I saved Ultravan #231 from the scarp yard this year. It arrived May 9, 2013 and I plan to flip this one with a mid-engine Subaru power plant.



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Re: OT - Need Help with Tie-Down Straps
Posted by: OttawaCorvairGuy ()
Date: May 16, 2019 02:55PM

How we load an Ultravan


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Re: OT - Need Help with Tie-Down Straps
Posted by: joelsplace ()
Date: May 17, 2019 04:25PM

It's already loaded at that point. Looks expensive.

Joel
Northlake, TX
4 Ultravans, Lost count at 100 Corvairs...

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Re: OT - Need Help with Tie-Down Straps
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: May 17, 2019 06:02PM

joelsplace Wrote:
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> It's already loaded at that point. Looks expensive.
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I've always wondered....

If Tony had pooled the $$ spent on hauling all the Ultras and Cars... to his property.....

Would he have enough to buy a nice / road ready Ultra? I cannot believe they wouldn't like to travel AWAY from all the snow every winter..

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Re: OT - Need Help with Tie-Down Straps
Posted by: joelsplace ()
Date: May 17, 2019 07:06PM

Let's not talk about that kind of stuff...

Joel
Northlake, TX
4 Ultravans, Lost count at 100 Corvairs...

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Re: OT - Need Help with Tie-Down Straps
Posted by: Kyle_in_Mich ()
Date: May 17, 2019 07:47PM

Multiple ways to skin a cat. if it works for you and is worth the hassle- more power to ya! It's not wrong if it gets the job done.

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Traverse City,MI
Daily driver- Bicycle
Fun driver/project- 65 Corsa 140/4 speed

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Re: OT - Need Help with Tie-Down Straps
Posted by: OttawaCorvairGuy ()
Date: May 20, 2019 04:47PM

I just ordered my Tekonsha P3 brake controller kit for my trailer.

I'll be ready sometime this summer to go rescue the Ultravan.

Lord willing, I will come home with it this time.

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