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Quick Steering arms-- Different than any others. And Adjustable
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: April 10, 2019 06:49PM

NEW SALES POINT COMING SOON



3-1/4 turns lock to lock with standard ratio steering box. ADJUSTABLE

Made with STEEL plate not Cast / Forged / or welded.

Can be used with 13" wheels

Ackerman is adjustable. Bumpsteer is adjustable



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Re: For Sale! New Quick Steering arms-- Different than any others. And Adjustable
Posted by: toms73novass ()
Date: April 11, 2019 03:14AM

Matt, can you explain how the adjustments are made?

Will these work on EM and LM?

-Tom


63' Monza Spyder Convertable (in process) MY Build Thread
65' Monza MY Build Thread
73' NovaSS 454 Big block (Sold)
86' BMW 325es
98' VW Jetta TDI, for daughter
01' Audi Allroad Stage 3 twin turbo
67' UltraVan 211 "Violet"
NFCC, UMCC
Grand Island, NY

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Re: For Sale! New Quick Steering arms-- Different than any others. And Adjustable
Posted by: dryenko ()
Date: April 11, 2019 07:41AM

Beta testing these, but I am drilling my own holes for the ratio I need.
Also so I can use rod ends instead of tie rod ends and be able to adjust bump steer.
They do look very sturdy.

Bob C aka Dryenko
Dobson, NC 27017

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Re: For Sale! New Quick Steering arms-- Different than any others. And Adjustable
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: April 11, 2019 08:46AM

toms73novass Wrote:
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> > Will these work on EM and LM?

Yes!! Never found the difference between EM & LM. FC's are of course BIGGER


> Ratio adjust On the Balljoint units there is room for another hole to be drilled... quickening


> Is Ackerman adjustment done with what looks like washers in your pic?

Correct Supplied with 3/8" bushings.. Use a thicker bushing to INCREASE Ackerman as I have taken out a lot of Ackerman.


> Bumpsteer adjustment done with where height of tie rod joint is achieved?

Correct again Top / Bottom ... Machine Shoulder Thinner. Tapers are available for $2.99.... then you can machine some 180 degrees opposite.. making numerous heights possible.

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Re: For Sale! New Quick Steering arms-- Different than any others. And Adjustable
Posted by: BobV66Vair ()
Date: April 11, 2019 10:08AM

Would you mind posting your installation directions? I am interested but I need to understand how they will fit and how adjustments are made. I do better with images.

66RTVair
Oregon
1965 Corsa 140 stock
1966 Monza DP Racecar
1968 Monza Parts for now

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Re: For Sale! New Quick Steering arms-- Different than any others. And Adjustable
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: April 11, 2019 11:45AM

Bob they just bolt on like Factory units... After testing 5 different geometries and many "test Fits" I can change them in 12 minutes per side after taking 15 minutes to get the car on the rack... GG

Trick! Before touching anything... car level...wheels straight.... take string / tape measure and measure the distance between INNER FRONT SIDEWALLS...RECORD!


1 Break BOTH SIDE'S Tierod sleeves loose and adjust for approx 3/8" new threads at each end of each TieRod..so you will be close on Toe adjustment. Pop Tierod ends loose but leave nut on to hold them up.

2 Pull drum but leave Hub.... using offset 9/16" or swivel socket on Open endwrench you can hold the bolt head. Factory nuts are self-locking.... usually impact will make them hot and tighten up even more. 3/8's rachet and 3" deep 9/16 socket works great

NOTE: 1/8" BUSHINGS [ 4 ] go between the arm and the spindle.... they fit the machined flat...

3 install TWO 1/8" bushings over each bolt... slide on Arms and tighten bolts..


4 Install tierods into tapers

Install ONE STAINLESS washer over Tierod SHAFT... they Capture the Tapers...

3 Recheck all 3 Nuts / Bolts to be sure they are tight... Self Locking nuts can fool you!


4 Put on the ground and set TOE. Use original measurement.... turn BOTH tierods same amount...1/4 turn on EACH tierod makes a BIG difference!

Tighten All 4 Clamps TEST!!





BUMPSTEER Adjustment visual







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Re: For Sale! New Quick Steering arms-- Different than any others. And Adjustable
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: April 11, 2019 11:48AM

Folks... I'm sure others have found the same thing...

Different Tierod end SHAFTS can be slightly different.... some go thru the TAPER further than others...

These Tapers are Purchased from a Well known USA supplier.

[www.speedwaymotors.com]

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Re: For Sale! New Quick Steering arms-- Different than any others. And Adjustable
Posted by: toms73novass ()
Date: April 11, 2019 02:05PM

Can't wait to give these a try, ordered.

-Tom


63' Monza Spyder Convertable (in process) MY Build Thread
65' Monza MY Build Thread
73' NovaSS 454 Big block (Sold)
86' BMW 325es
98' VW Jetta TDI, for daughter
01' Audi Allroad Stage 3 twin turbo
67' UltraVan 211 "Violet"
NFCC, UMCC
Grand Island, NY

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Re: For Sale! New Quick Steering arms-- Different than any others. And Adjustable
Posted by: nirvairna ()
Date: April 11, 2019 02:35PM

nice job on those Matt - are longer tie rod sleeves required for these?

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Re: For Sale! New Quick Steering arms-- Different than any others. And Adjustable
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: April 11, 2019 06:34PM

nirvairna Wrote:
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> nice job on those Matt - are longer tie rod
> sleeves required for these?

I didn't have to... approx. 1" threads engaged... stock '67 Monza

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Re: Sold out until 2nd week of May New Quick Steering arms-- Different than any others. And Adjustable
Posted by: ihscomputers ()
Date: April 16, 2019 04:09AM

Matt,

What are the measurements, especially the overall "thickness" compared to the stock quick steers?

The reason is that I bought tknobby's dropped spindle kit and discovered that the stock quick steers are too thick to fit...

Thanks

Dean F. Gemberling
Columbus, Georgia
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1963 Rampside w/305 V8 - Built by Ken Arnold in 1998

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Re: Sold out until 2nd week of May New Quick Steering arms-- Different than any others. And Adjustable
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: April 16, 2019 07:24AM

The plate is 0.375"

These Rise above the Spindle mounting holes to avoid any clearance problems with the lower B-J / Castor Rod.

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Re: Sold out until 2nd week of May New Quick Steering arms-- Different than any others. And Adjustable
Posted by: 65 Corsa Vert ()
Date: April 16, 2019 07:33AM

I have installed a pair. Thanks Matt for sending them my way.

They were an easy straight forward installation and everything fit like it should. The bolt holes lined up well.

I added about 3/8" of thread on each side of the tie rod sleeve on each side. SO that means between inner and outer tie rod I lengthened the rod 3/4" per side and it got the toe pretty close.

First driving impressions were good. I still need it aligned but I got the first feel.

Steering effort - I did notice a slight increase effort in steering feel. If I had not been looking for it and trying to feel for it, I probably would not have noticed.

I can definitely feel a increase in speed. I saw just about 2 turn lock to lock reduction. I did not feel any twitchiness, just responsiveness to steering input.

I did not notice any more or any less scrubbing in tight turns. I don't think I have turned it full lock enough times to fully assess that but I have to turn it pretty tight when pulling it into my garage and did not notice any scrubbing.

I will qualify my results. I have all new suspension, maybe a thousand miles on it. I have all urethane bushings from Corvair Underground, new sway bar bushings, new strut rod bushings, new ball joins, tie rods, etc. Everything is tight and fairly stiff. So my steering effort was already pretty hard. I also have a 15" wheel from Seth Emerson, which is awesome. grinning smiley

Once I get it aligned I will be able to better compare and drive it more.

Overall I am pretty happy with the arms and increase in steering speed. Changing lanes takes a flick of the wheel and turns are quick. It is really nice not having to turn the wheel so much to go around a corner.

Hope you all enjoy your arms.



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Re: Sold out until 2nd week of May New Quick Steering arms-- Different than any others. And Adjustable
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: April 16, 2019 07:43AM

Thanks Paul! And you are running 17" wheels? Great pics!! They answer many questions!

As you can see there is plenty of clearance! with the 3/8" bushings...

My car has No bushings! I ground reliefs to clear the spindle....works even better!

Adjustable!

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Re: Sold out until 2nd week of May New Quick Steering arms-- Different than any others. And Adjustable
Posted by: 65 Corsa Vert ()
Date: April 16, 2019 08:57AM

Correct. Running 215/45/17 Michelin Pilot Sport PS4 on 17x7s on the front. Rears are 225/45/17 on 17x7. So I do have a relatively wide performance tire on the front.

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Re: Sold out until 2nd week of May New Quick Steering arms-- Different than any others. And Adjustable
Posted by: 65 Corsa Vert ()
Date: April 22, 2019 11:36AM

I guess I am really bad at setting the toe. The alignment shop said it was way out. But sometimes I think he might be embellishing to make it seem like he did a lot of workspinning smiley sticking its tongue out I am really happy with his results so I will keep going. The steering effort increase seems more noticeable now, again still not what I would call significant. One the road it is not twitchy at all. It does require very little steering input to change lanes. The steering arms have no steering stop as Matt had mentioned previously. I have clearance my fenders a bit due to the tire, wheel, and stance combination. Turning radius seems better, if not, just the same as before. I did not notice any scrubbing of tires in tight turns. Car is great to drive. I just wish my front end parts where not so stiff. I am overall fairly happy with the arms and seems ot have done the trick without making it hard to drive.

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Re: Sold out until 2nd week of May New Quick Steering arms-- Different than any others. And Adjustable
Posted by: Ron62 ()
Date: April 22, 2019 07:55PM

What was the configuration before the new steering arms ? Stock box and arms or modified

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Re: Sold out until 2nd week of May New Quick Steering arms-- Different than any others. And Adjustable
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: April 22, 2019 08:07PM

Right Stock ratio / stock arms 17" wheels 15" custom steering wheel.

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Re: Sold out until 2nd week of May New Quick Steering arms-- Different than any others. And Adjustable
Posted by: toms73novass ()
Date: May 05, 2019 11:32AM

I had a chance to get mine installed in my Spyder.

Piece of cake, messing with the alignment took more time.

I found that I could only fit one of the stainless washers under the tierod nut, otherwise I did not have access to the cotter pin hole.

Other than that it was easy, the car at slow parking lot speeds requires more effort but not bad with my 14.5" wheel with 205-14 tires. My 69 chevelle with factory wheel required much more effort with stock setup!

On the road it is nice and responsive but not twitchy at all.

Great Job Matt! thumbs upthumbs up



-Tom


63' Monza Spyder Convertable (in process) MY Build Thread
65' Monza MY Build Thread
73' NovaSS 454 Big block (Sold)
86' BMW 325es
98' VW Jetta TDI, for daughter
01' Audi Allroad Stage 3 twin turbo
67' UltraVan 211 "Violet"
NFCC, UMCC
Grand Island, NY



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Re: Sold out until 2nd week of May New Quick Steering arms-- Different than any others. And Adjustable
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: May 05, 2019 12:01PM

Great! Tom thanks! Just use a standard thickness washer for the top.

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