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Fiberfab Avenger Kit | Rebuilt 140HP | NW Arkansas $6,000 complete
Posted by: thor2k ()
Date: March 06, 2019 09:06PM

I request the assistance of the knowledgeable folks here to find me a worthy home(s) for Corvair-specific items that have found their way here (Bentonville, AR).

1/ The engine seems the most desirable item, if you want to invest "ala carte".

The engine was rebuilt and picked up on 9/27/06 from Larry's Automotive Danielson, CT 06239. The phone number on the receipt and listed on their directory page is the same, but INOP. Perhaps someone knows of this company and of any chance of getting a detailed work order on the engine?

Engine Case RN
Heads Casting # 3856728
66-67 140HP Dual Valve Spring

2/ The engine plus rebuilt Powerglide (Clark's) is another option.

3/ The entire vehicle/project is a third option.

The body is a Fiberfab Avenger (II?) that appears unmolested, is definitely unpainted. Front and rear glass, headlights, taillights are in place, as are fancy wheels.

Prices for these kits appear to be all over the place, from dust to $15,000. I am not trying to get the last dollar, just to find a good home(s) for some quality components for someone motivated to complete the build . . . or buy components for their own use.

This includes two Cobra seats ($500), front disc brake conversion ($300), windshield and rear glass installed, headlights installed, B&M shifter, steering wheel, etc., etc.

I have not gone through all the boxes, but there does seem to be all (perhaps "most" of) the pieces necessary to finish.

I do not see a carburetor, side glass, brake lines.

4/ The vehicle, final assembly and road-worthy is a final option

My mechanic is very, very sharp. He estimates it would take him 40 hours to get it
roadworthy. It needs wiring, brake lines, etc. and everything tested.

My asking prices as of today are:

1/ $3,000 rebuilt engine
2/ $3,500 rebuilt 140 HP engine + rebuilt Powerglide - $750 for PG alone
3/ $6,000 everything listed plus 5 boxes of components
4/ $9,200 everything listed, running vehicle (labor only. As mentioned, I do not
see a carb or brake lines, there may be a bunch other items that you need. The
figure is my mechanic's estimate at $80/hour. You would deal with him on that
portion.

Please let me know of anyone on the list who can make use of any or all, before I resort
to eBay.

Regards,

Jay Honeycutt
912-996-6296

forsale



Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 03/07/2019 12:12PM by MattNall.

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Re: Fiberfab Avenger Kit | Rebuilt 140HP | Parts or complete
Posted by: 67 airvair ()
Date: March 06, 2019 09:34PM

Just an FYI:

The Avenger came in two iterations, the GT-12 and the GT-15. The former used a VW chassis, while the latter used the Valkyre tube steel frame and full Corvair suspension front and rear.

-Mark

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Re: Fiberfab Avenger Kit | Rebuilt 140HP | Parts or complete
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: March 06, 2019 09:37PM

Looks like a GT-15!

Jay, welcome to the CCF! Good luck on the Sale!

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Re: Fiberfab Avenger Kit | Rebuilt 140HP | Parts or complete
Posted by: County98 ()
Date: March 06, 2019 10:27PM

Where are you at? Looks nice.

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Re: Fiberfab Avenger Kit | Rebuilt 140HP | Parts or complete
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: March 06, 2019 10:48PM

Savannah GA. Call or PM Jay.

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Re: Fiberfab Avenger Kit | Rebuilt 140HP | Parts or complete
Posted by: Spectre ()
Date: March 07, 2019 05:04AM

Hopefully someone buys it all. That car looks like it has a lot of potential.

David Clamp


1965 Corsa convertible - 140 4spd/3.55/AM-FM

2013 Mustang GT convertible - 5.0, 6spd auto, Procharger i-1

2003 Miata SE - 6spd manual (wife's toy)

"Victory is mine!" - SG

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Re: Fiberfab Avenger Kit | Rebuilt 140HP | Parts or complete
Date: March 07, 2019 05:31AM

That is so freaking cool. How much?

1961 Corvair 700 Sedan - 3sp - Gasoline Heat - Lowered a bit - Rust in Progress
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Re: Fiberfab Avenger Kit | Rebuilt 140HP | Parts or complete
Posted by: wv-geo ()
Date: March 07, 2019 07:00AM

If the PG is from a 140HP, that would be a good price.

Wonder what the axle ratio is?

Dan Stark
Hurricane, WV

1961 Lakewood 500, 80HP, PG
1964 Corvair 500 Coupe, 140HP, 4spd (Christine)
1965 Mustang Coupe, 6cyl, 3spd

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Re: Fiberfab Avenger Kit | Rebuilt 140HP | Parts or complete
Posted by: thor2k ()
Date: March 07, 2019 07:46AM

I should have posted the location more prominently . . . Bentonville, Arkansas. XNA is the closest commercial airport.

It does not have a tube frame, but appears to be some sort of "hybrid" . . . VW pan with Corvair running gear.

Since the PG was purchased from Clark's, I would like to expect it the correct unit for the 140HP engine.

Part number for PG was C9680.
Part number for "REBUILT TORQUE CONVERTER W/RIN" wasC9216.

Let me know if you need more photos or specs?

Thanks,

Jay

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Re: Fiberfab Avenger Kit | Rebuilt 140HP | NW Arkansas $6,000 complete
Posted by: 67 airvair ()
Date: March 07, 2019 01:02PM

Jay, what you have is a hybrid, but as is, it is more like a GT-12, the most common version. As I mentioned before, the 12 is like the typical dune buggy, using a VW Beetle floor pan and suspension (with the engine option being typically VW or sometimes Corvair.)

The 15 was a cross between the base 12 and the top line Valkyre that used a tube frame, Corvair suspension, and Chevy V-8 mounted mid-ship.

Yours looks like it has the 15/Valkyre body, as the whole rear lifts open, hinged on the rear. The GT-12 only hinged off up to the wheel well center.

I'd sell it with that known, and recommend the buyer build a tube frame to mount a Corvair suspension and drive train in it, and sell off the VW chassis. This would make it the rarer and more desirable GT-15.

-Mark

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Re: Fiberfab Avenger Kit | Rebuilt 140HP | NW Arkansas $6,000 complete
Posted by: avenger3d ()
Date: March 18, 2019 01:36PM

The car appears to be a GT-12. Depending on the year and where manufactured it was available in a one-piece (no tilting bodywork), two-piece (rear section including window tilted), and three piece body (rear section after wheels tilted and did not include window).

The one you have is considered the two-piece with rear tilting engine cover which included the rear window.
The GT-12 did have the VW pan and had either a VW or Corvair motor.

The GT-15 was also available in the three body styles, had a square tube custom frame that used Corvair suspension and was rear engine corvair powered.

The Valkyrie was only in the two-piece and one-piece body style, had a similar square tube frame, a corvair suspension and transaxle and was mid engine (usually V8). The Valkyrie was shorter in body length and the difference occurred after the rear wheels. The rear wheelwell cutouts were also larger.

In all cases front glass is Corvair, rear is mustang, side is LTD (i believe).

Early designs in all cases had vent windows in doors. Later designs had one piece windows. Some had scoops in front "hood" and others did not.

One piece body designs intended for rear engine had an access panel where a typical one would be for a VW bus (in the rear tail panel).

Early models in all designs also had "short" doors that did not go all the way down the bodywork (leaving a section of body visible under the door where typical molding might be applied). Late model ones had "full" doors that went all the way to the bottom.

I have a three piece GT12.

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Re: Fiberfab Avenger Kit | Rebuilt 140HP | NW Arkansas $6,000 complete
Posted by: thor2k ()
Date: June 07, 2019 05:57PM

I am trying to remove price as a barrier to someone finishing this kit.

As of today, am dropping the price to $5,000.

The new owner need PayPal a $1,000 deposit and schedule a pickup date within the month of June and the balance paid at the time of pickup.

By all means, let me know of any questions?

Regards,

Jay

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Re: Fiberfab Avenger Kit | Rebuilt 140HP | NW Arkansas $6,000 complete
Posted by: Timothy Shortle ()
Date: June 08, 2019 10:25AM

This all looks way kool. I wish you were closer to me (but I am glad you are not).
Does the rebuilt engine not have the lower cylinder baffles? Hard to tell in the picture.

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Re: Fiberfab Avenger Kit | Rebuilt 140HP | NW Arkansas $6,000 complete
Posted by: rnch ()
Date: June 09, 2019 10:31AM

I'm thinking that a 140/PG powertrain, in that lightweight fiberglass body, would be quite Potent & Peppy?



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Re: Fiberfab Avenger Kit | Rebuilt 140HP | NW Arkansas $6,000 complete
Posted by: American Mel ()
Date: June 09, 2019 04:47PM

rnch Wrote:
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> I'm thinking that a 140/PG powertrain, in that lightweight fiberglass body, would be quite Potent & Peppy?
>
>
>
> smiling bouncing smiley

Oh NO doubt!
I had just VW powered Aztec II some years ago, and it was quite VERY peppy.
It all comes down to that All consuming Power to Weight Ratio.
140 in a kit car? = SCREAMER ! ! !

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WA. state, 1 mile south of the Canadian border,
I am not at the end of the world, but you can see it from here.
'66 Monza Coupe - 4spd, 140 Daily driver beater
'67 Monza Vert. - PG, 140 Daily driver beater
'67 A/C Moredoor Monza - 140 4-spd. driver
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non-vair
'04 Dodge Cummins Quad Dualy, approaching 400K
17'Terry

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Re: Fiberfab Avenger Kit | Rebuilt 140HP | NW Arkansas $6,000 complete
Posted by: thor2k ()
Date: June 10, 2019 09:20AM

Can anyone advise of the value of the freshly rebuilt engine and Powerglide?

It is the 140HP with manifold, no carb.

I am considering selling . . .

- the engine/tranny separately,
- the Fiberfab body separately,
- the VW chassis with Corvair suspension separately?

Thoughts?

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Re: Fiberfab Avenger Kit | Rebuilt 140HP | NW Arkansas $6,000 complete
Posted by: Monza109 ()
Date: June 10, 2019 10:21AM

With the cylinder baffles missing,
it's never been actually started and
the open rear housing where the distributor goes
makes me leery of the quality of the "rebuild".

Who knows what else maybe be askew with it.

In it's present state with all the
missing parts it can't possibly run.

My guess the sell price of just the engine
to be between $500.00 and $1000.00

Selling the body and chassis separately
doesn't sound like it will go well.

Even together they'll be a hard sale.

I'd take whatever someone will offer you to haul it away
once the drivetrain is gone.

Sadly, aside from Meyers Manx buggies it seems these
type of kit cars don't sell for much.

You may be best to try and sell the whole thing
even if it nets only $1500 to $2000.00

Good luck to you.



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Re: Fiberfab Avenger Kit | Rebuilt 140HP | NW Arkansas $6,000 complete
Posted by: azdave ()
Date: June 10, 2019 12:40PM

thor2k Wrote:
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> Can anyone advise of the value of the freshly rebuilt engine...

Trying not to be a jerk but there is bright silver spray paint on the heads and head studs (and over-spray on the valve cover in the photo below). No reason to spray paint like that unless the rebuilder was trying to make things look better than they really were. I am suspicious after seeing that detail because a guy around here used to try the same trick selling Vair heads as "rebuilt" when they weren't. Also, no dust cover on the distributor hole and the engine is very dirty. How much debris went down in that hole over many years of storage?



Dave W. / Gilbert Arizona
65 Corsa 140/4
66 Corsa 140/4
66 Corsa 140/4 w/factory A/C
66 Corsa 455 Toro V8
65 Monza Convertible 110/4
66 Monza Convertible 140/4 A/C
65 Monza 4DR 140/PG w/factory A/C
65 Monza 4DR EJ20T/5



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Re: Fiberfab Avenger Kit | Rebuilt 140HP | NW Arkansas $6,000 complete
Posted by: American Mel ()
Date: June 10, 2019 01:29PM

Funny, . . . .
was just having a "Kit-car" conversation with a couple of neighbors just yesterday.
One has a full-frame pinto powered Gazelle.
They both were saying that the Kit-car market is just not there anymore.
Values are in the dirt!
I got to agree with Monza109, and azdave, too many issues with this car.
I would not give a dime over $2500.oo MAX ! ! !

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WA. state, 1 mile south of the Canadian border,
I am not at the end of the world, but you can see it from here.
'66 Monza Coupe - 4spd, 140 Daily driver beater
'67 Monza Vert. - PG, 140 Daily driver beater
'67 A/C Moredoor Monza - 140 4-spd. driver
.
non-vair
'04 Dodge Cummins Quad Dualy, approaching 400K
17'Terry

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Re: Fiberfab Avenger Kit | Rebuilt 140HP | NW Arkansas $6,000 complete
Posted by: thor2k ()
Date: June 10, 2019 01:49PM

My bad. I had expected the positive and constructive responses to my initial post to continue?

Apparently, some folks are willing to both (a) assume the worst, and (b) malign total strangers.

FWIW:

1 The engine rebuild receipt was for $2,100. While Larry Dapsis at Larry's Automotive is no longer in business, the shop operated for at least 31 years (perhaps 45). I doubt that one could consistently scam the public that long with the shoddy practices here suggested?

2 Judging by the numerous receipts from Clark's (PowerGlide, etc.), I doubt the PO would invest that much with a scammer?

3 The engine has been stored indoors, covered since the rebuild. My mechanic turned it over (easily) and noted how clean everything appeared.

4 Photos are more revealing when a cover is removed.

Thanks for your feedback.

Jay

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