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Vintage Car LEDs
Posted by: David Malcolm ()
Date: March 06, 2019 12:41PM

Got the latest issue of Hagerty magazine and they recommend this company's products of LED replacement lights. They list compatibility with our Corvairs for the 4000 line. Anybody tried them? A bit pricey but if the work well--
Also a few Corvair references in the article on the aluminum V-8 GM sold to Rover.

David Malcolm
1969 Monza PG Coupe
NJ near the Meadowlands



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Re: Vintage Car LEDs
Posted by: oldqmguy ()
Date: March 06, 2019 01:10PM

This is the company I have been looking at for the "final" LED replacement! smoking smiley

As you said, they are a little pricey but seem to have the best (and correct diameter) LED Headlights on the market.

This may take me awhile. I started at the back bumper and have been slowly working forward. I have gotten about as far as the rear seat!

Dale cool smiley

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Re: Vintage Car LEDs
Posted by: jjohnsonjo ()
Date: March 06, 2019 02:28PM

I have looked at that several times and to me it a reflector that was designed for a quartz bulb and they just shoved an LED lamp in it. If that is the case you will have nothing but light splatter. That is bright light everywhere, but where you want it.

J.O.

65 Corsa Turbo Vert
79 Honda XL 500S
69 Honda CL 160 D
2010 BMW F 650 GS
2003 Bounder 36D
2013 KIA Optima SX turbo-AKA ZIPPY (wife,s car)
69 Newport Holiday Sailboat
Baja 150 dune buggy cart
Coleman HS 500 UTV
2016 KIA Sorento SXL Turbo

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Re: Vintage Car LEDs
Posted by: azdave ()
Date: March 07, 2019 01:34PM

If I use my fingers to count the number of quality, PNP LED headlights available for our Corvairs, I will always have ten fingers remaining after the count. Never found anything that wasn't a glaring failure (pun intended). The design of the Vintage LEDs mentioned looks like the same old approach of trying to make a LED capsule perform in a housing design only for a filament bulb.

Plenty of people spend a whole lot of money on them and then try to convince themselves that they aren't blinding people all around them.

Dave W. / Gilbert Arizona
65 Corsa 140/4
66 Corsa 140/4
66 Corsa 140/4 w/factory A/C
66 Corsa 455 Toro V8
65 Monza Convertible 110/4
66 Monza Convertible 140/4
65 Monza 4DR 140/PG w/factory A/C
65 Monza 4DR EJ20T/5



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Re: Vintage Car LEDs
Posted by: thewolfe ()
Date: March 07, 2019 01:46PM

You need a proper projector lens for either LED or HID and those lights don't have them. The problem with making a 5.75" light with a good projector is they stick out the back and can't possibly fit an unmodified headlight housing.

Nate Wolfe
Portland OR
65 Corsa 180

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Re: Vintage Car LEDs
Posted by: jjohnsonjo ()
Date: March 07, 2019 04:01PM

[www.amazon.com]


This will work and throws a nice light pattern. The problem is the massive heat sink on the back. I have one but it will require some serious mods of the lamp holding hardware. Thought I'd have time to work on it, but other things get in the way.

J.O.

65 Corsa Turbo Vert
79 Honda XL 500S
69 Honda CL 160 D
2010 BMW F 650 GS
2003 Bounder 36D
2013 KIA Optima SX turbo-AKA ZIPPY (wife,s car)
69 Newport Holiday Sailboat
Baja 150 dune buggy cart
Coleman HS 500 UTV
2016 KIA Sorento SXL Turbo

Bethlehem,Pa

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Re: Vintage Car LEDs
Posted by: David Malcolm ()
Date: March 07, 2019 05:29PM

Thanks all for the info. I'll just save my money for now and hope that someone does it correctly in the future.

David Malcolm
1969 Monza PG Coupe
NJ near the Meadowlands

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Re: Vintage Car LEDs
Posted by: Melb-Mike ()
Date: March 07, 2019 06:28PM

I’m no LED expert but whenever and wherever possible, I replace an incandescent bulb with an LED. On my 65 Corsa, more out of curiosity than need, I replaced the headlights with a set of eBay halo headlights. These are exact 5-3/4” replacements with both low and high beam function. Also, they have the “Halo” circles for DRL function (which requires separate wiring added).

My take on these; cost was around $110 for 4 headlights so very affordable. Light output was around 20% better than stock T3 bulbs. Visibility was better since stock lights don’t have DRL function. Power demand is quite low so no problem there. Reliable? Still work after 2 years. Also, they look pretty cool 🤗

Also, aside from the two dash warning lights, all of my dash lights are LED (Much much brighter). Dome light is LED.

64 Greenbrier
64 Spyder (needs restoration)
65 Corsa 140, restored
66 Corsa turbo, restoring now
66 Corsa 140 "RR" code coupe fully restored
67 Pontiac GTO restored
69 Corvette 427 convertible restored
2015 Porsche Panamera S
2015 Corvette Z06
1965 AC Cobra (Factory Five)

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Re: Vintage Car LEDs
Posted by: CorvairHaven ()
Date: March 07, 2019 08:59PM

Would 5.75" headlights for motorcycles work in a stock Corvair?

Example: [smile.amazon.com]






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Re: Vintage Car LEDs
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: March 07, 2019 09:28PM

J.O. is testing some I forget what brand.

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Re: Vintage Car LEDs
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: March 07, 2019 09:33PM

These might be better?

[www.amazon.com]





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Re: Vintage Car LEDs
Posted by: American Mel ()
Date: March 07, 2019 09:51PM

Since in America, we still have the right to our own opinion (for a little while longer anyway), I will take this opportunity to voice mine.
In my not so humble opinion, both of the L.E.D. options that have been pictured are quite atrocious looking and are not something that I would want on my car.

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Re: Vintage Car LEDs
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: March 07, 2019 10:03PM

Mel, No one looks at headlights on a Driver! No need for these on Garage queens /Show cars that are judged on headlights!

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Re: Vintage Car LEDs
Posted by: American Mel ()
Date: March 07, 2019 10:25PM

So I am a "No One" now eh? sad smiley
I have always suspected that I was considered a nobody, but up until now, no one has blatantly told me so in such an outright fashion. eye rolling smiley
I am into lighting, and I do LOOK at headlights and auxiliary lights on all cars.
I never know when I might be able to borrow a great idea.

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'67 Monza Vert. - PG, 140 Daily driver beater
'67 A/C Moredoor Monza - 140 4-spd. driver

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Re: Vintage Car LEDs
Posted by: azdave ()
Date: March 08, 2019 04:12AM

I'm with Mel. The look of both of those lights is totally unappealing. I wouldn't use either of those on my worst Corvair. If they actually performed as claimed that might change my mind but I know they don't.

Dave W. / Gilbert Arizona
65 Corsa 140/4
66 Corsa 140/4
66 Corsa 140/4 w/factory A/C
66 Corsa 455 Toro V8
65 Monza Convertible 110/4
66 Monza Convertible 140/4
65 Monza 4DR 140/PG w/factory A/C
65 Monza 4DR EJ20T/5



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Re: Vintage Car LEDs
Posted by: David Malcolm ()
Date: March 08, 2019 06:46AM

Saw lights like that on an otherwise perfect 55 Chevy at a cruise night--words fail!

David Malcolm
1969 Monza PG Coupe
NJ near the Meadowlands

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Re: Vintage Car LEDs
Posted by: CorvairHaven ()
Date: March 08, 2019 07:04AM

I should have been more specific.

1) Are "motorcycle" headlights able to be used as stock replacements? Are there any problems with mounting/being held firmly in place?

2) The example I gave [smile.amazon.com] has built-in DRLs (Daytime Running Lights). Are there any electrical modifications that need to be made to the stock Corvair wiring in order for them to function as DRLs?

3) My personal preference is to NOT use LEDs for headlights. Are there any halogen sealed beam bulbs with DRLs integrated into their construction?

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Re: Vintage Car LEDs
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: March 08, 2019 07:38AM

No sealed beams... Most are H4's with Halos.

The LEDS present a mounting problem...but that won't stop those that want them.

The DRL function takes a separate additional circuit / switch.

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Re: Vintage Car LEDs
Posted by: David Malcolm ()
Date: March 08, 2019 10:44AM

Matt,
I as posted in the other thread there's +12 available at the wiper motor with the key on that can be used with just a couple of diodes and a wire.

David Malcolm
1969 Monza PG Coupe
NJ near the Meadowlands

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Re: Vintage Car LEDs
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: March 08, 2019 10:57AM

Right....I just gave a generic answer..

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