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New Heads Have Arrived. Now I just need to get them in there. thumbs up
Posted by: playerpage ()
Date: February 08, 2019 03:27PM

Hey guys.

I'm pretty sure my car will be ready to go again by The end of the month, I can't imagine why it wouldn't be. (But I've been wrong before.)

In the meantime I thought I'd show off the new heads that are going on the car.

Driver side one, was built by and courtesy of Don's Corvairs of Visalia, CA. Passenger side one, was a gift from Mike Stevens of the San Joaquin Valley Corvair Club (viewmaster here on the forum), and was refurbished & rebuilt by Spanky's Machine Shop here in Porterville--valves and guides brought in from EPWI Warehouse in New Jersey and SI Valves in Simi Valley. The first "top and bottom" picture is of how both heads appear now, all done. The next set of pictures show a comparison of the finished heads with the kind of condition each particular head was in beforehand.

Very excited to mount these fire them up! If there's anyone in my area who wants to give me a hand, that'd be great; I'm not very good at lifting heavy things--besides installation of these and putting all of the shrouds back into place properly, is kind of a more than one guy job.

Cheers,

Eric C. Player
Porterville, CA
- National Member, CORSA
- Member: Central Coast CORSA & South Coast CORSA
Former Member: Vintage CORSA Orange County. Member, ISA (Int. Screenwriter's Assn.), SAG Eligible, and Producer's Guild Aspirant


* Then: 1966 Corsa 180 Turbo, Red/1965 Monza 110 Purple/
1967 Monza 140 Red/1966 500 110 Black/1965 Monza 110 Yellow
* Now: 1966 Corsa 180 Turbo Project. Blue, Blue/Beige interior.



"Chevrolet's Corvair was a maverick machine, a rear-engined renegade born out of spite and genius." -- Sports Car Graphic, August 1969




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Re: New Heads Are In
Posted by: v8vair ()
Date: February 08, 2019 03:30PM

They look great, Just in time for spring smiling smiley

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Posted by: kenzen ()
Date: February 08, 2019 03:31PM

Nice... smiling smiley

kenzen
66 Monza Coupe 110/PG
Bel Air, MD

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Re: New Heads Have Arrived. Now I just need to get them in there. thumbs up
Posted by: Phil Dally ()
Date: February 08, 2019 06:26PM

Go Eric Go!!!

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Re: New Heads Have Arrived. Now I just need to get them in there. thumbs up
Posted by: Monza109 ()
Date: February 09, 2019 11:19AM

Those heads look like they are a simple clean-up & valve grinding job.

Used valves, used seats and likely used guides.

Hopefully you did not spend over $300.00- $400.00 for that kind of work.

I'm sure they will be better than what you took off, however, I'd be very concerned about how long they will provide good service.

Run high test gas and keep it cool to hedge your bet they won't drop a seat or the guides don't show their wear.

Good luck getting her back on the road!

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Re: New Heads Have Arrived. Now I just need to get them in there. thumbs up
Posted by: playerpage ()
Date: February 10, 2019 10:18PM

Can't vouch beyond what you say for the 'Don's Corvairs' one, but the Spanky's is a complete rebuild. All internal parts are new, including the valve guides.

Eric C. Player
Porterville, CA
- National Member, CORSA
- Member: Central Coast CORSA & South Coast CORSA
Former Member: Vintage CORSA Orange County. Member, ISA (Int. Screenwriter's Assn.), SAG Eligible, and Producer's Guild Aspirant


* Then: 1966 Corsa 180 Turbo, Red/1965 Monza 110 Purple/
1967 Monza 140 Red/1966 500 110 Black/1965 Monza 110 Yellow
* Now: 1966 Corsa 180 Turbo Project. Blue, Blue/Beige interior.



"Chevrolet's Corvair was a maverick machine, a rear-engined renegade born out of spite and genius." -- Sports Car Graphic, August 1969

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Re: New Heads Have Arrived. Now I just need to get them in there. thumbs up
Posted by: jcorvair ()
Date: February 11, 2019 07:31AM

If the work included new deep seats you should get years of worry-free service. If new seats were not installed I would be concerned. I have replaced a head due to a dropped seat and got one hour down the road and had a another valve seat drop on the other head. That is when I learned there are two types of original Corvair valve seats: 1. those that have dropped; and 2. those that will drop. Of course my experience is with 110 and 140 heads.

James
West Kelowna, BC

1965 Corvair, Corsa, Convertible 180/4
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Re: New Heads Have Arrived. Now I just need to get them in there. thumbs up
Posted by: viewmaster ()
Date: February 11, 2019 10:14AM

Way to go, Eric. Hope it all works together, for GOOD!!

-m



Mike
'65 '500' Sedan 110 PG
'65 Monza Sedan turbo'd 110 SU conversion
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Re: New Heads Have Arrived. Now I just need to get them in there. thumbs up
Posted by: Richard ()
Date: February 11, 2019 10:46AM

Is it the photograph or my eyes?



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Re: New Heads Have Arrived. Now I just need to get them in there. thumbs up
Posted by: playerpage ()
Date: February 11, 2019 11:30AM

I think what you're trying to say is it doesn't look like new exhaust tubes? That is correct. Those are not swapped out. I had to save money somewhere.

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Re: New Heads Have Arrived. Now I just need to get them in there. thumbs up
Date: February 11, 2019 11:34AM

playerpage Wrote:
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> I think what you're trying to say is it doesn't
> look like new exhaust tubes? That is correct.
> Those are not swapped out. I had to save money
> somewhere.

They don't look clearanced.

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Re: New Heads Have Arrived. Now I just need to get them in there. thumbs up
Posted by: viewmaster ()
Date: February 11, 2019 12:16PM

UnauthorizedServiceTech Wrote:
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> playerpage Wrote:
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> > I think what you're trying to say is it doesn't
> > look like new exhaust tubes? That is correct.
> > Those are not swapped out. I had to save money
> > somewhere.
>
> They don't look clearanced.

Yeah!!! Eric, are you gonna be able to slide that head onto the studs?? Did your machinist open up those tubes, and get rid of the "dent" in the sides of those exhaust tubes?

-m



Mike
'65 '500' Sedan 110 PG
'65 Monza Sedan turbo'd 110 SU conversion
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Re: New Heads Have Arrived. Now I just need to get them in there. thumbs up
Posted by: MoxyRamone ()
Date: February 11, 2019 05:00PM

viewmaster Wrote:
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> UnauthorizedServiceTech Wrote:
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> > playerpage Wrote:
> >
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> > > I think what you're trying to say is it
> doesn't
> > > look like new exhaust tubes? That is correct.
> > > Those are not swapped out. I had to save
> money
> > > somewhere.
> >
> > They don't look clearanced.
>
> Yeah!!! Eric, are you gonna be able to slide that
> head onto the studs?? Did your machinist open up
> those tubes, and get rid of the "dent" in the
> sides of those exhaust tubes?
>
> -m

Maybe they're turned the wrong way? I don't think they would've taken the time to remove the indention from all of them.

John Carver
Simpsonville, South Carolina

1964 Monza Convertible


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Re: New Heads Have Arrived. Now I just need to get them in there. thumbs up
Posted by: Lane66m ()
Date: February 11, 2019 05:07PM

I think it was removed and not orientated correctly when installed. JMO.

Al Lane
Ellabell GA

1966 Monza Coupe, 110 hp, 4 Spd
1968 Camaro SS Coupe 350 CI 295+ HP PG
1964 Greenbrier Deluxe, 6 dr, 80 hp car engine, PG
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Re: New Heads Have Arrived. Now I just need to get them in there. thumbs up
Posted by: American Mel ()
Date: February 11, 2019 07:14PM

Eric, maybe it is just the lighting in your photo.
Try taking a couple more pictures focusing more on the exhaust tubes.
I hope it is correct, but they really look wrong in the photo you have posted.
Those flats should definitely be lined up with the pushrod tube holes.

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Re: New Heads Have Arrived. Now I just need to get them in there. thumbs up
Posted by: TerribleTed ()
Date: February 11, 2019 08:14PM

I see what appears to be 2 redone heads. One is still kinda dirty and the other is so clean that it looks new. I am assuming one of these is the R and the other is the L. If this is the case I would suggest that the dirty one be taken to a machine shop to be machined in the head gasket seat area to match the clean one. the clean one has had the entire head gasket step machined off the other has a mostly intact head gasket step. Chamber volumes will be different as will compression if the same thickness head gaskets are used on each side. Can perhaps get close by compensating for the thickness on the dirty head by adding thicker gaskets on the heavily machined head, but, would be best machine the dirty head to match the other one.

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Re: New Heads Have Arrived. Now I just need to get them in there. thumbs up
Posted by: jjohnsonjo ()
Date: February 12, 2019 05:39AM

Ted I am not sure that is the case. It may be just the way it looks in the pic. Look at the amount of material between the spark plug hole and the register. You need to take a caliper and measure the recess to be sure. Plus if that much was removed and nothing taken off the head face the jugs could never reach the gasket register. The far right is the best pic.

J.O.

65 Corsa Turbo Vert
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Re: New Heads Have Arrived. Now I just need to get them in there. thumbs up
Posted by: playerpage ()
Date: February 12, 2019 07:57PM

Those are important issues and I appreciate everyone's bringing them to my attention. The dirtier head is the driver side left hand head and it is the one that was done at Don's Corvair. The right-hand passenger side head was the one professionally machined. The dirtier one has already been installed so do I have to pull it back off to get it machined? Is this a really big issue that could have made trouble when the car got all back together?

As for the tubes on the cleaner head they still have the indents but it's very possible that they are not installed correctly. I will double-check that.

Lastly, when it comes to removing the old right hand head I have run into a snag. The top row of bolts is very rusted and I was only able to get one off. The others are trying to take the entire bolts off with them. I stopped when that begin to happen but now I'm just scratching my head as to how to remove this thing.

I suppose it is good that I haven't gotten too far with the install because of that.

Eric C. Player
Porterville, CA
- National Member, CORSA
- Member: Central Coast CORSA & South Coast CORSA
Former Member: Vintage CORSA Orange County. Member, ISA (Int. Screenwriter's Assn.), SAG Eligible, and Producer's Guild Aspirant


* Then: 1966 Corsa 180 Turbo, Red/1965 Monza 110 Purple/
1967 Monza 140 Red/1966 500 110 Black/1965 Monza 110 Yellow
* Now: 1966 Corsa 180 Turbo Project. Blue, Blue/Beige interior.



"Chevrolet's Corvair was a maverick machine, a rear-engined renegade born out of spite and genius." -- Sports Car Graphic, August 1969

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Re: New Heads Have Arrived. Now I just need to get them in there. thumbs up
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: February 12, 2019 08:11PM

Eric!! those are NUTS!

You have the top fan shroud off.... hold each STUD with Vice-Grip type pliers...

Hope you've soaked them with Penetrant!!





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Re: New Heads Have Arrived. Now I just need to get them in there. thumbs up
Posted by: playerpage ()
Date: February 12, 2019 08:30PM

Right. Nuts. Sheesh on me.

I have them soaked in Bolt Buster, I will use the vice grips, but I may find myself in a just-not-coordinated-or-strong-enough situation.

To be Continued.

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