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Need Numbers Translated by a Pro confused smiley
Posted by: playerpage ()
Date: January 12, 2019 09:02PM

Rebuilding my engine after the valve dropped in cylinder #2 (That is, as best I can with my skill level, the new heads are actually being done by a friend) and as I putter about working on whatever else I can clean, paint, or fix, (see my recent comments in other sections) I have revealed my engine code for the first time since I bought the car a year ago. I wonder if someone could decipher these and the others for me:

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On the engine block itself: T0924RX

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Under Oil Sender: CM 4
3851864 GM
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Body Tag:

GENERAL MOTORS CORPORATION
02D
ST 66-10737 LOS 1351 BODY
TR 722-Z F-F PAINT
E

BODY BY FISCHER

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VIN Tag:

Chevrolet DD
107376L111016

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I actually understand that last one, except for the "DD" thing.

Thanks,

Eric C. Player
Porterville, CA
- National Member, CORSA
- Member: Central Coast CORSA & South Coast CORSA

THEN: 1967 Monza 110 Canary Yellow/1966 Corsa 180 Turbo, Red/
1965 Monza 110 Purple/1967 Monza 140 Red/1966 500 110 Black/1965 Monza 110 Camaro Yellow
NOW: 1966 Corsa 180 Turbo Coupe Blue. Blue/Beige interior.



"He cautioned me not to take notes. It would not have helped if I had, as he would start a paragraph with, 'It is therefore obvious. . .' and go on from there to matters which may have been obvious to him and God but to no one else." -- Daniel B. Davis

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Re: Need Numbers Translated by a Pro confused smiley
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: January 12, 2019 09:17PM

Eric!! All info is in the FAQ's no "pro" needed..

you have a '66 Coupe.... has the stiffeners for shoulder belts [ hole punched at bottom of plate ].

11,016th CAR to come off of the assy. line. 1,315th body built by Fisher plant.

Few Options..

Your engine CASES at least, are '65 FC [ Greenbrier 110 hp with PG] Who knows what's inside!





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Re: Need Numbers Translated by a Pro confused smiley
Posted by: solo2r ()
Date: January 12, 2019 10:06PM

RX can also be a 1966 smog, PG, 140 ! I have one!
The FC RX should have the oil filler tube hole in block. [Mine does not and does not even have the boss for it!]



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/12/2019 10:08PM by solo2r.

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Re: Need Numbers Translated by a Pro confused smiley
Posted by: JohnVan ()
Date: January 12, 2019 10:29PM

It was made in the 4th week of February 1966 in Los Angeles.

John Van Valkenburgh
Knightdale NC
'65 Corsa 140

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Re: Need Numbers Translated by a Pro confused smiley
Posted by: JohnVan ()
Date: January 12, 2019 10:42PM

It was also originally painted Marina Blue (paint code F both upper and lower) and had a bright Blue interior (code 722).

John Van Valkenburgh
Knightdale NC
'65 Corsa 140

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Re: Need Numbers Translated by a Pro confused smiley
Posted by: playerpage ()
Date: January 12, 2019 10:55PM

Thanks all!

Yeah Matt, I knew the basics, but the engine block code is the special mystery.

As has been pointed out, it is a code for a 1965 110 PG...or maybe a 1966 140...? I guess it could be either one, as it was an early year build--my special guess is February 22, 1966. The fact that I'm driving a 180 Turbo 4-speed stick just adds to the mystery.

I was aware of the color codes--I think it's a special piece of Kismet that when I undertook to paint it away from the purple and black of the previous owner, my color choices matched the original, and I hadn't decoded the body tag yet!

Eric C. Player
Porterville, CA
- National Member, CORSA
- Member: Central Coast CORSA & South Coast CORSA

THEN: 1967 Monza 110 Canary Yellow/1966 Corsa 180 Turbo, Red/
1965 Monza 110 Purple/1967 Monza 140 Red/1966 500 110 Black/1965 Monza 110 Camaro Yellow
NOW: 1966 Corsa 180 Turbo Coupe Blue. Blue/Beige interior.



"He cautioned me not to take notes. It would not have helped if I had, as he would start a paragraph with, 'It is therefore obvious. . .' and go on from there to matters which may have been obvious to him and God but to no one else." -- Daniel B. Davis




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Re: Need Numbers Translated by a Pro confused smiley
Date: January 13, 2019 12:48AM



Your 1966 Corsa Coupe was the 1351st Built by Van Nuys (LOS angeles) Fisher Body Corporation before being sent "thru the wall" to Chevrolet Plant for completion.
The Corsa would have originally had a 140 HP "A.I.R.) engine with the air pump to combat "smog" it would have been an RT code built in probably the first or second week of February - so T0201RT thru T0215RT would be the likely engine code for the factory engine. Air Injection Reaction (GM anti-smog) was required for all California sold 140 hp engines except with factory Air Conditioning (A/C)
It did not have a Turbo-Charged engine. IF it did, the Fisher Body ID plate would have E (=all tinted glass) and it would also have 40 (=RPO L87 Turbo-Charged special high performance engine)
That code (40) was there because Fisher Body had to install a lower rear valence panel with the cut-out for the Turbo exhaust pipe.

Your T0924 engine is either built in September (09) of 1964 with the provision for a rear access dipstick/oil fill tube for installation into a 1965 model year Greenbrier (all were built in Sept (or so) of 1964 in St. Louis, MO. OR the engine was built in September of 1965 for installation into a Monza or 500 series car with the PowerGlide Automatic transmission and A.I.R.


Dan Davis ~ Pierce County, WA ~ CORSA Western Director + Corvairs NW + North Cascades Corvairs + Corvanatics
1966 Corsa Turbo coupe ~ ~ 1966 140 Corsa ~ ~ 1965 Monza 140/4 'Vert Sierra Tan/Fawn ~ 1964 Monza 'Vert (SOLD) ~ 1960 Monza Ermine White/Red PG ++ ~ 1965 Monza 140/4 Evening Orchid w/ ivory/black interior ~ 1962 Monza Wagon 102/4 ~ 1963 Rampside/Scamper ~ 1963 Red/Greenbrier ~ 1969 Ultra Van #468



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Re: Need Numbers Translated by a Pro confused smiley
Posted by: azdave ()
Date: January 13, 2019 04:43AM

playerpage Wrote:
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> I actually understand that last one, except for
> the "DD" thing.

Delivery Date

For warranty use, the dealer was supposed to stamp date when the car was delivered to buyer. Many times this feature was not used.


Dave W. / Gilbert Arizona
65 Corsa 140/4
66 Corsa 140/4
66 Corsa 140/4 w/factory A/C
66 Corsa 455 Toro V8
65 Monza Convertible 110/4
66 Monza Convertible 140/4
65 Monza 4DR 140/PG w/factory A/C
65 Monza 4DR EJ20T/5




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Re: Need Numbers Translated by a Pro confused smiley
Posted by: ral1963 ()
Date: January 13, 2019 07:30AM

....and the -Z behind your trim id of 722 means the car did NOT have factory headrests on the front buckets.

If it had a -Y behind the trim code, it would mean factory installed headrests on the front buckets.

Rick Loving
Corvair historian & chronicler of useless facts
CORSA
Performance Corvair Group
Chicagoland Corvair Enthusiasts

RAL1963@COMCAST.NET
Just south of Chicago IL

Current Ride
63 Sprint Vert 140/4sp

Past Rides
66 Turbo Coupe 180/4sp
60 700 Sedan 80hp PG
63 Monza Vert 102hp 4 spd
63 Monza Coupe 140hp 4 spd
63 700 Sedan 80hp 3 spd
64 Monza Vert 110hp 4 spd
64 Monza Coupe 95hp 3 spd
64 Monza Sedan 110hp PG
65 500 Coupe 95hp 4 spd
65 Monza Coupe 110hp PG
65 Corsa Coupe 140hp 4 spd
68 Monza Vert 140hp 3 spd

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Re: Need Numbers Translated by a Pro confused smiley
Date: January 13, 2019 07:38AM

azdave Wrote:
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> playerpage Wrote:
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> > I actually understand that last one, except for
> > the "DD" thing.
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> Delivery Date
>
> For warranty use, the dealer was supposed to stamp
> date when the car was delivered to buyer. Many
> times this feature was not used.

I never knew what the DD was for, and none of the twelve I've owned was stamped with the delivery date.

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Re: Need Numbers Translated by a Pro confused smiley
Posted by: ral1963 ()
Date: January 13, 2019 07:38AM

and a quick question...

Where is anyone getting RX as 110 FC engine code?

I only have RX listed as 1966 140 w/ smog Powerglide for Monza or 500.

I did notice that on my list I only list a WB as a 64 FC 110 powerglide and I have no notes for a 65 FC 110PG or any 65 FC engines?

Rick Loving
Corvair historian & chronicler of useless facts
CORSA
Performance Corvair Group
Chicagoland Corvair Enthusiasts

RAL1963@COMCAST.NET
Just south of Chicago IL

Current Ride
63 Sprint Vert 140/4sp

Past Rides
66 Turbo Coupe 180/4sp
60 700 Sedan 80hp PG
63 Monza Vert 102hp 4 spd
63 Monza Coupe 140hp 4 spd
63 700 Sedan 80hp 3 spd
64 Monza Vert 110hp 4 spd
64 Monza Coupe 95hp 3 spd
64 Monza Sedan 110hp PG
65 500 Coupe 95hp 4 spd
65 Monza Coupe 110hp PG
65 Corsa Coupe 140hp 4 spd
68 Monza Vert 140hp 3 spd

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Re: Need Numbers Translated by a Pro confused smiley
Posted by: Lane66m ()
Date: January 13, 2019 07:41AM

Clark's Catalog Page 1 lists it as such.

Al Lane
Ellabell, GA 31308

1966 Monza Coupe, 110 hp, 4 Spd
1966 Monza More Door 110 hp, PG
1968 Camaro SS Coupe 350 CI 295+ hp PG
1964 Greenbrier Deluxe, 6 dr, 80 hp car engine, PG
1947 Farmall A tractor 15 hp


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Re: Need Numbers Translated by a Pro confused smiley
Posted by: Wagon Master ()
Date: January 13, 2019 07:45AM

I'm getting "it" right off page 7 of the second addition of the junkyard primer.

RX 65 110 164 PG FC
RX 66* 140 164 PG A.I.R. exc CORSA

* Probably carried over into next year

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Re: Need Numbers Translated by a Pro confused smiley
Posted by: ral1963 ()
Date: January 13, 2019 07:45AM

Found it there, along with the 65 FC manual code of RU...

hmmm... I didn't have either of these listed in my notes.

Looks like some updates are needed on my end...

1965 110 FC Manual = RU
1965 110 FC Powerglide = RX

Thanks...another new thing learned.

Rick Loving
Corvair historian & chronicler of useless facts
CORSA
Performance Corvair Group
Chicagoland Corvair Enthusiasts

RAL1963@COMCAST.NET
Just south of Chicago IL

Current Ride
63 Sprint Vert 140/4sp

Past Rides
66 Turbo Coupe 180/4sp
60 700 Sedan 80hp PG
63 Monza Vert 102hp 4 spd
63 Monza Coupe 140hp 4 spd
63 700 Sedan 80hp 3 spd
64 Monza Vert 110hp 4 spd
64 Monza Coupe 95hp 3 spd
64 Monza Sedan 110hp PG
65 500 Coupe 95hp 4 spd
65 Monza Coupe 110hp PG
65 Corsa Coupe 140hp 4 spd
68 Monza Vert 140hp 3 spd

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Re: Need Numbers Translated by a Pro confused smiley
Posted by: Phil Dally ()
Date: January 13, 2019 08:06AM

Snipped straight from Clark's catalog.

Thanks to Clark's for all their handy info.

I have these stored in my picture thumb drive.

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Re: Need Numbers Translated by a Pro confused smiley
Date: January 13, 2019 10:45AM

I use Bob Helt's "Classic Corvair" reference pages. "Ninth Edition" (on the cover)
Pages 24 and 25 have a complete list of all the codes.

Bob's daughter Becky is keeping his books available.
You will soon be able to order them online via CORSA Merchandise and our Corvair Museum online Gift Shop.
An announcement will be made soon!


Dan Davis ~ Pierce County, WA ~ CORSA Western Director + Corvairs NW + North Cascades Corvairs + Corvanatics
1966 Corsa Turbo coupe ~ ~ 1966 140 Corsa ~ ~ 1965 Monza 140/4 'Vert Sierra Tan/Fawn ~ 1964 Monza 'Vert (SOLD) ~ 1960 Monza Ermine White/Red PG ++ ~ 1965 Monza 140/4 Evening Orchid w/ ivory/black interior ~ 1962 Monza Wagon 102/4 ~ 1963 Rampside/Scamper ~ 1963 Red/Greenbrier ~ 1969 Ultra Van #468

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Re: Need Numbers Translated by a Pro confused smiley
Posted by: ral1963 ()
Date: January 13, 2019 11:04AM

I condensed all the data I ever seemed to need down into 1 document and update it with any omissions, errors, or other relevant points.

I own at least 1 copy of every Corvair publication ever produced but sometimes trying to find something and remembering what book it is in can be a pain.

My "data" file is over 300 pages and keeps all stuff in a nice single archive.

This was my engine code file, I updated the RU and RX codes...

Rick Loving
Corvair historian & chronicler of useless facts
CORSA
Performance Corvair Group
Chicagoland Corvair Enthusiasts

RAL1963@COMCAST.NET
Just south of Chicago IL

Current Ride
63 Sprint Vert 140/4sp

Past Rides
66 Turbo Coupe 180/4sp
60 700 Sedan 80hp PG
63 Monza Vert 102hp 4 spd
63 Monza Coupe 140hp 4 spd
63 700 Sedan 80hp 3 spd
64 Monza Vert 110hp 4 spd
64 Monza Coupe 95hp 3 spd
64 Monza Sedan 110hp PG
65 500 Coupe 95hp 4 spd
65 Monza Coupe 110hp PG
65 Corsa Coupe 140hp 4 spd
68 Monza Vert 140hp 3 spd

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Re: Need Numbers Translated by a Pro confused smiley
Posted by: playerpage ()
Date: January 13, 2019 08:44PM

So if I'm reading the preceding chart correctly, my engine was most likely a 1966 140, but earmarked for a 500 or Monza...? So that would mean somewhere along the lines the heads were changed to accommodate the turbo?

The whole thing would seem to have been installed later, seeing as I'm driving a Corsa.

Again thanks all. Appreciated.

Eric C. Player
Porterville, CA
- National Member, CORSA
- Member: Central Coast CORSA & South Coast CORSA

THEN: 1967 Monza 110 Canary Yellow/1966 Corsa 180 Turbo, Red/
1965 Monza 110 Purple/1967 Monza 140 Red/1966 500 110 Black/1965 Monza 110 Camaro Yellow
NOW: 1966 Corsa 180 Turbo Coupe Blue. Blue/Beige interior.



"He cautioned me not to take notes. It would not have helped if I had, as he would start a paragraph with, 'It is therefore obvious. . .' and go on from there to matters which may have been obvious to him and God but to no one else." -- Daniel B. Davis

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Re: Need Numbers Translated by a Pro confused smiley
Posted by: playerpage ()
Date: January 13, 2019 09:03PM

Now that I know where to look, I guess I'll check those head numbers too.

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Re: Need Numbers Translated by a Pro confused smiley
Posted by: playerpage ()
Date: February 04, 2019 10:06AM

Coming back to this, are we sure if the Corsa I have was or wasn't a stock Turbo?

Dan Davis (1966-Corsa-GT-180) stated the body tag should have had a "40" on it which "equals" RPO L87. Does that mean RPO L87 should be on the tag? Or both "RPO L87" AND "40," or either one is good? Isn't it possible to have neither and have a turbo? The 'Corvair Basics' book says (on page 4) that turbos were "sometimes" identified by L87, which implies that sometimes they weren't. As a side note, where exactly will the RPO be printed if not on the body tag?

Dan also said the 40/RPO L87 was there to tell Fisher to install the special panels for the turbo exhaust. If I have that does it mean it was originally a turbo? We know that my 1966 engine had the California smog AIR feature, but that AIR "wasn't required" on a turbo in California car. This statement again implies that it could have been installed if the owner requested it. And my heads are definitely Turbo. But Matt did say that if the case is stamped one way it's still a toss-up as to what's going on inside. You can see I'm still full of questions.

As for an update, the driver side head replacement has come in. They tell me the passenger side will be available on Tuesday (tomorrow). I will post pictures once they both arrive, and before I install them. Not to say whether any new opinions will stop me from installing them. Of course I will install them. :-)

Eric C. Player
Porterville, CA
- National Member, CORSA
- Member: Central Coast CORSA & South Coast CORSA

THEN: 1967 Monza 110 Canary Yellow/1966 Corsa 180 Turbo, Red/
1965 Monza 110 Purple/1967 Monza 140 Red/1966 500 110 Black/1965 Monza 110 Camaro Yellow
NOW: 1966 Corsa 180 Turbo Coupe Blue. Blue/Beige interior.



"He cautioned me not to take notes. It would not have helped if I had, as he would start a paragraph with, 'It is therefore obvious. . .' and go on from there to matters which may have been obvious to him and God but to no one else." -- Daniel B. Davis

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