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50 years from now
Posted by: irfgt ()
Date: January 05, 2019 03:09PM

It won't be long until the youngest Corvairs will be 50 years old. Where do you see our hobby in 50 more years?

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Re: 50 years from now
Posted by: stitch ()
Date: January 05, 2019 03:18PM

Museums....

"If you can't fix it with a Hammer, you have an Electrical problem."
Stitch...
Schertz, Texas.
(Smallish town/burg 17 mi. NE of San Antonio)

'Ms Penny'
!967.. 4th body
8th off the line

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Re: 50 years from now
Posted by: Wagon Master ()
Date: January 05, 2019 03:39PM

Probably keep driving them. Another 10 years and my one and only Ford will be 100. Still going strong.

'29 Ford Model A Tudor
'61 700 Lakewood 110 4 speed
'69 Monza Convert. 140 Auto.
'70 Dodge Challenger R/T 440 4 speed

Been aircooled since 1973
Northwest Ohio

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Re: 50 years from now
Posted by: Caraholic4life ()
Date: January 05, 2019 03:41PM

Essentially non existent if things keep going the way they are.
Does anyone remember the movie Idiocracy from about 2005/2006?
Kids these days seem to see the automobile as nothing more than transportation between point A and B.
Many probably couldn't check the oil or change a tire to save their lives.
Social media and gaming apps seem to be the priority in their lives.
I think I'm glad I am as old as I am at this point in time.confused smiley

1962 95 F.C. Van
1965 Monza Coupe
Westminster, Maryland

MID ENG enthusiast &
prior Kelmark owner.

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Re: 50 years from now
Posted by: viewmaster ()
Date: January 05, 2019 03:47PM

Wagon Master Wrote:
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> Probably keep driving them. Another 10 years and
> my one and only Ford will be 100. Still going
> strong.


Now THATS what Im talking about!!

-m



Mike
'65 '500' Sedan 110 PG
'65 Monza Sedan turbo'd 110 SU conversion
Fresno, CA

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Re: 50 years from now
Posted by: Mountainman ()
Date: January 05, 2019 05:00PM

Caraholic4life Wrote:
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> Essentially non existent if things keep going the
> way they are.
> Does anyone remember the movie Idiocracy from
> about 2005/2006?

That movie really predicted how things are going and is very underrated, probably because people know it's true!

I see some electric/hydrogen/??? conversions coming around once the government cracks down on fossil fuels to save us all. Some electric conversions already exist but 1.70 a gallon gas is causing them to be ignored.

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Re: 50 years from now
Posted by: American Mel ()
Date: January 05, 2019 05:14PM

Caraholic4life Wrote:
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> Essentially non existent if things keep going the
> way they are.
> Does anyone remember the movie Idiocracy from
> about 2005/2006?
> Kids these days seem to see the automobile as
> nothing more than transportation between point A
> and B.
> Many probably couldn't check the oil or change a
> tire to save their lives.
> Social media and gaming apps seem to be the
> priority in their lives.
> I think I'm glad I am as old as I am at this point
> in time.confused smiley

Quite true!
Most young people today do not understand(or value) the personal freedom provided by having your own transportation.
They are very content to rely on Big Brother to transport them where ever they want to go.
Quite sad to watch these mind numb robots lining up to hop on a bus, or other form of urban transport, conforming their lives to the schedule that Big Brother say you will use, rather that arriving when and where you want to be.

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WA. state, 1 mile south of the Canadian border,
I am not at the end of the world, but you can see it from here.
'66 Monza Coupe - 4spd, 140 Daily driver beater
'67 Monza Vert. - PG, 140 Daily driver beater
'67 A/C Moredoor Monza - 140 4-spd. driver
.
non-vair
'04 Dodge Cummins Quad Dualy, approaching 400K
17'Terry

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Re: 50 years from now
Posted by: 7004doorL ()
Date: January 05, 2019 06:15PM

I imagine Corvair's still going. Persistence and knowledge will do that.

I know I am not supposed to get Political but I refuse to let California.
Tax me out of driving and owning a Corvair.

It is freedom. Hop in and hope it starts and go. After it warms up.



Mike
1960 4 Door
80 HP PG

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Re: 50 years from now
Posted by: joelsplace ()
Date: January 05, 2019 06:54PM

It isn't really freedom if it's taxed.

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Re: 50 years from now
Posted by: American Mel ()
Date: January 05, 2019 09:31PM

joelsplace Wrote:
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> It isn't really freedom if it's taxed.


It is still FREEDOM, it just ain't FREE!

Better to have taxed-Freedom, than free-Slavery!

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WA. state, 1 mile south of the Canadian border,
I am not at the end of the world, but you can see it from here.
'66 Monza Coupe - 4spd, 140 Daily driver beater
'67 Monza Vert. - PG, 140 Daily driver beater
'67 A/C Moredoor Monza - 140 4-spd. driver
.
non-vair
'04 Dodge Cummins Quad Dualy, approaching 400K
17'Terry

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Re: 50 years from now
Posted by: 65Ragtop ()
Date: January 06, 2019 05:38AM

All the more reason to go out and drive your car TODAY!!! Get it running, get it out of the garage, drive it like it was 1969!!! That's what these cars were meant for.....You never know when that 'last' time will be.

Mike Schantel
1965 Corsa 140
Corsa Member
Arizona

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Re: 50 years from now
Posted by: Caraholic4life ()
Date: January 06, 2019 05:59AM

65Ragtop Wrote:
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> All the more reason to go out and drive your car
> TODAY!!! Get it running, get it out of the garage,
> drive it like it was 1969!!! That's what these
> cars were meant for.....You never know when that
> 'last' time will be.

That reminds me of the movie "The Last Chase" from 1981 where "This futuristic adventure stars Lee Majors as a former racing champ who reassembles his old Porsche and drives to California in a world where cars have been outlawed by the powers that be."
[www.rottentomatoes.com]
I loved the movie back when it was new and watched it again a few years ago.
While the movie really doesn't "Hold Up" by today's standards and has a campy feel to it, it is still something I would watch again...kind of like the original "Gone in 60 Second's" movie.

1962 95 F.C. Van
1965 Monza Coupe
Westminster, Maryland

MID ENG enthusiast &
prior Kelmark owner.

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Re: 50 years from now
Posted by: 66vairman ()
Date: January 06, 2019 08:28AM

If American Mel lived in a big city he wouldn't be talking about the "personal freedom" of driving a car.

When young I really enjoyed the freedom to get in my car and GO. Now I live in a big city and traffic is AWFUL. My millennial neighbors only have one car and use Uber and Lyft mostly. To them a car is an annoyance because of cost and the unpleasant task of dealing with gridlock traffic to get to work and back.

When my old car buddies and I who want to get out and enjoy our old cars we have to get up at 5:00 to 6:00 AM on the weekend to enjoy a nice relaxing drive before the traffic gets heavy.

I'll keep my Corvair, but I can't wait for self driving cars to get me around for daily use in a city.

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Re: 50 years from now
Posted by: davemotohead ()
Date: January 06, 2019 01:45PM

50 years from now I see myself not giving a flying Fork about Corvairs because I will be DEAD!smoking smiley







1960 4dr sedan caveman car
1961 Rampside (Chetside)
1962 Rampside (Barnside)
1962 Short Rampside (Shortside)
1962 Monza 700 Wagon
1963 Monza 900 coup (General Nader)

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Rust Free Lancaster Ca

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Re: 50 years from now
Posted by: jcorvair ()
Date: January 06, 2019 01:58PM

Assuming gas is still available, or I can pump it out of old gas station tanks like Lee Majors did in the last chase I hope to still driving mine. Mind you my 65 is a couple years older than I am, so I'll have to live to be 98 to see my car hit a 100.

James
West Kelowna, BC

1965 Corvair, Corsa, Convertible 180/4
2013 Hyundai Santa Fe Turbo
2016 Dodge 3500 Crew Cab 4x4 (for hauling cars, trailers, fifth wheels, quads, etc.)
2013 Victory Car Hauler (enclosed)
2019 Express Car Hauler (Aluminum, Enclosed)
2015 Polaris 570 EPS
2016 Polaris 570 SP
2017 Corvette Z06 Convertible

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Re: 50 years from now
Posted by: oldqmguy ()
Date: January 06, 2019 02:27PM

In another 50 years I will (or would have been) 124! eye rolling smiley

I hope my grandson will be passing it on to his grandson 50 years from now!!

At 5 years of age he just loves the 'more-door' and can't wait to drive it. I hope to be around in 11 years to see that!eye popping smiley

Maybe that is why I don't 'feel' my age? confused smiley

Dale cool smiley

Dale E. Smiley CPBE
Life Member The Society of Broadcast Engineers
RETIRED Broadcast Engineer
CERTIFIED CORVAIR NUT
CORSA/Circle City Corvairs/Corvair Performance Group
Avon, Indiana
WB9SFF
1967 4-Door Monza PG!

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Re: 50 years from now
Posted by: RKF ()
Date: January 06, 2019 03:06PM

My Overland is 101 and still purrs like a kitten. I fully expect my Corvairs to do the same.

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Re: 50 years from now
Posted by: john.jackson ()
Date: January 06, 2019 03:09PM

irfgt Wrote:
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> It won't be long until the youngest Corvairs will
> be 50 years old. Where do you see our hobby in 50
> more years?

To me, the amazing thing is that after more than 50 years - I still care about Corvairs!!

I got the "hots" for the Corvair about 1965 or 66, about the same time I got my driver's license (1965). My first couple of cars were a 1953 Studebaker ($175), a 1959 Rambler, then a 1961 Rambler. All because they were cheap. The Stude was my favorite and I killed it by not paying attention to the oil level. What do you expect from a stupid 16/17 year old Kid?

Sometime in 1965/66 Car and Driver had a cover article on the 1965 Fitch Sprint Corvair. I fell in love with that car right then and their.

That was the start of my Corvair obsession. Worst part about it? I had to earn and pay my own money for my first car (1953 Studebaker Land Cruiser). Well my parents decided (in 1967) they should buy my sister her first car, because she was a girl. What did they buy her? A 1965 Corvair!!

Two years later, I got a brand new 1969 Monza Coupe as my first new car in June 2019.

Lot's of cars since then. Faster, more economical, more comfortable, and lots of other improvements since then.

Still Great Memories every time I drive or work on the Corvair's

Kind of like a first love?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/06/2019 03:11PM by john.jackson.

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Re: 50 years from now
Posted by: kenzen ()
Date: January 06, 2019 03:12PM

Brings to mind the lyrics of Rush "Red Barchetta":

My uncle has a country place, that no-one knows about
He says it used to be a farm, before the Motor Law
Sundays I elude the ‘Eyes’, and hop the Turbine Freight
To far outside the Wire, where my white-haired uncle waits

Jump to the ground
As the Turbo slows to cross the borderline
Run like the wind
As excitement shivers up and down my spine
Down in his barn
My uncle preserved for me an old machine –
For fifty-odd years
To keep it as new has been his dearest dream

I strip away the old debris, that hides a shining car
A brilliant red Barchetta, from a better, vanished time
Fire up the willing engine, responding with a roar!
Tires spitting gravel, I commit my weekly crime…

Wind in my hair –
Shifting and drifting –
Mechanical music
Adrenalin surge –
Well-weathered leather
Hot metal and oil
The scented country air
Sunlight on chrome
The blur of the landscape
Every nerve aware

Suddenly ahead of me, across the mountainside
A gleaming alloy air-car shoots towards me, two lanes wide
I spin around with shrieking tires, to run the deadly race
Go screaming through the valley as another joins the chase

Drive like the wind
Straining the limits of machine and man
Laughing out loud
With fear and hope, I’ve got a desperate plan
At the one-lane bridge
I leave the giants stranded
At the riverside
Race back to the farm
To dream with my uncle
At the fireside…

kenzen
66 Monza Coupe 110/PG
Bel Air, MD

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Re: 50 years from now
Posted by: American Mel ()
Date: January 06, 2019 03:48PM

66vairman Wrote:
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> If American Mel lived in a big city he wouldn't be
> talking about the "personal freedom" of driving a
> car.
>
> When young I really enjoyed the freedom to get in
> my car and GO. Now I live in a big city and
> traffic is AWFUL. My millennial neighbors only
> have one car and use Uber and Lyft mostly. To them
> a car is an annoyance because of cost and the
> unpleasant task of dealing with gridlock traffic
> to get to work and back.
>
> When my old car buddies and I who want to get out
> and enjoy our old cars we have to get up at 5:00
> to 6:00 AM on the weekend to enjoy a nice relaxing
> drive before the traffic gets heavy.
>
> I'll keep my Corvair, but I can't wait for self
> driving cars to get me around for daily use in a
> city.


The fact that you would even say this shows how ignorant you are about those you are criticizing.
While I do live in an extremely small community that you can ride a bike across in about the same amount of time that it would take someone to get into their car and drive across, and then find a parking space, that does not mean that I do not know what I am talking about when I speak of the freedoms of owning a car.
I moved to this specific location to get away from the rat-race that you call home.
I have lived in the city, and have driven our Nations roads.
Coast to Coast, Border to Border, and ALL points in between.
Also, it is quite funny that you say "If American Mel lived in a big city he wouldn't be talking about the "personal freedom" of driving a car."
And the entire time, you are agreeing with me!
I said, "Most young people today do not understand(or value) the personal freedom provided by having your own transportation.
They are very content to rely on Big Brother to transport them where ever they want to go.
Quite sad to watch these mind-numb robots lining up to hop on a bus, or other form of urban transport, conforming their lives to the schedule that Big Brother says you will use, rather than arriving when, and where you want to be."

In other words, I want to make the choice of what time I leave, and arrive, not make sure that I am down on the corner waiting for a bus, or hiking further away to make sure that I am in a longer waiting line at the Light-Rail Station, just so I can get off at another stop some half a mile from where I want to actually be, then have a half-hour wait killing time because the transportation schedule required me to either be extremely early, or late for what ever thing it was I was going to.
IF I was still dumb enough to be living in an overcrowded, crap-hole that we call cities, I would rather be driving in slow traffic, In my own personal private environment, called a car, than sitting in another over crowded, dirt-hole compartment of a publicly owned socialistic transportation vehicle that is likely infected with numerous communicable diseases!
Your comment about your "Millennial Neighbors" only serves to prove my point!
They think that a car is "an annoyance because of cost and the
> unpleasant task of dealing with gridlock traffic
> to get to work and back.", while the reality is it is a freedom, and we already know, that freedom is never free.
Yes, there is cost associated with owning a car. So what? There is cost associated with EVERYTHING we do.
Yes, there is unpleasantness of dealing with grid-lock traffic. So what?!?!?
If you don't like it, you only have ONE PERSON to blame. YOURSELF!
You can leave the city anytime you like!
If you wanted to you could do it.
Don't make EXCUSES about, . . . .
My job,(You can always take another somewhere else. It may require an adjustment to your precious "standard of living." but you can do it if you really want out.)
My family,(They can come with you! And YES, they will get over it.)
Or what ever else you can come up with.
When a person is truly honest with themselves they can still move if they want to.
This country has not become THAT restrictive, YET!
You state, "When my old car buddies and I who want to get out and enjoy our old cars we have to get up at 5:00 to 6:00 AM on the weekend to enjoy a nice relaxing drive before the traffic gets heavy."
Whaaaa whaaa whaaa, I am cry'in big tears over this one!
Again, proving my point!
This is a CHOICE that you and your car friends make!
NO ONE told you that you have to drive your cars on the "A Line", the "B Schedule", or "the 317 route!"
You drive them WHEN, and WHERE you please!
Yes, you may have preferred to drive them later in the day, but YOU made the choice to do so earlier in order to have a more fulfilling experience.
There is no one telling you that you had to, you have the FREEDOM to make that choice!
The final proof that you really agree with me, is your closing statement.
You said, "I'll keep my Corvair, but I can't wait for self driving cars to get me around for daily use in a city."
Even you want to run on your own schedule!
I never said anything against self-driving cars, just public transportation.
A personal car, whether manually operated, or self-driving is the REAL symbol of freedom in America!
The ability to come and go as you please, and NOT be regulated by Big Brother!

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WA. state, 1 mile south of the Canadian border,
I am not at the end of the world, but you can see it from here.
'66 Monza Coupe - 4spd, 140 Daily driver beater
'67 Monza Vert. - PG, 140 Daily driver beater
'67 A/C Moredoor Monza - 140 4-spd. driver
.
non-vair
'04 Dodge Cummins Quad Dualy, approaching 400K
17'Terry

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