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Third Brake Light? confused smiley
Posted by: oldqmguy ()
Date: January 05, 2019 11:45AM

OK, while figuring out 'what to do next' on the Corvair I started wondering about adding a 'third brake light' to match "modern (post 1986) cars" and would like to know if any of you have done this, what you used, and where and how you mounted it?

Center of the rear window of course but TOP, BOTTOM?

Thanks!!

Dale cool smiley

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Re: Third Brake Light? confused smiley
Posted by: Lane66m ()
Date: January 05, 2019 11:55AM

I have looked at doing one. Figured bottom is easier to wire in to brake switch as not messing with headliner. Run wire to front to switch under left side carpet and door sill.

Al Lane
Ellabell GA

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Re: Third Brake Light? confused smiley
Posted by: TerribleTed ()
Date: January 05, 2019 12:17PM

Early model or late model? On an early with the fake vents on top of the rear cowl I would make LED's in those. Someone did that and posted photos on one of the forums within the last year. For a late model or early model with the inset rear cowl details, I would go at the base of the glass for a couple reasons. A light mounted at the top of the glass will block more important real estate in the rear view than something and the base of the rear glass. Mounting at the bottom of the window would also simplify hiding the wiring.

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Re: Third Brake Light? confused smiley
Posted by: Lane66m ()
Date: January 05, 2019 12:29PM

Dala and I have LMs.

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1968 Camaro SS Coupe 350 CI 295+ HP PG
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Re: Third Brake Light? confused smiley
Posted by: oldqmguy ()
Date: January 05, 2019 12:47PM

I have a LM (67 Monza 4-Door) and I have taken out the cardboard that covers the 'shelf' behind the rear seat.

I put in a board on the shelf which I mounted the VHX Control Box for my Custom Instrument Panel, which includes the GPS option. I will complete the 'box' that will have a thin top cover that is level with the bottom of the window.

I am thinking of placing the 'third brake light' on the top of this. This will be a single row of LED's 'just showing' at the center of the rear window bottom.

I already have wiring for my Instrument panel run so hooking it up will not be a problem. I had thought about the 'top' (I will replace the headliner someday) but figured it would block the vision thru the Rear View mirror.

At some point, I need to replace the Rear View mirror, once I get that far forward!

Dale cool smiley

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Re: Third Brake Light? confused smiley
Posted by: jimc ()
Date: January 05, 2019 04:40PM

I installed Pontiac Grand Prix front and rear leather seats. The Pontiac rear seat back cushion is taller than the Corvair so I had to fabricate a new parcel shelf from mdf., and covered it in graphite vinyl, then installed a third brake light cut from a 2000 era GM compact, maybe a Chevy (?) or Pontiac Sunfire(?) rear shelf. Ultimately I will redo this and blend the third brake light housing seamlessly into the parcel shelf and recover. My shelf also houses two additional speakers for Alpine player/radio hidden in glove box.

There are many interesting 3rd brake light designs, this one was low and sleek. I didn't want the more complex install of a high mounted one since I did this after the new headliner was installed.

The electrical connection was easy by using a twin lead connector from Autozone. It attaches to the spade terminal on brake switch and feeds both the stock rear brake lights and a separate lead to third brake light.

I feel a bit more comfortable with the 3rd brake light, but still watch my mirror when stopped as there are too many air heads with cell phones glued to their face.



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Re: Third Brake Light? confused smiley
Posted by: TerribleTed ()
Date: January 05, 2019 06:02PM

oldqmguy Wrote:
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> I have a LM (67 Monza 4-Door) and I have taken out
> the cardboard that covers the 'shelf' behind the
> rear seat.
>
> I put in a board on the shelf which I mounted the
> VHX Control Box for my Custom Instrument Panel,
> which includes the GPS option. I will complete the
> 'box' that will have a thin top cover that is
> level with the bottom of the window.
>
> I am thinking of placing the 'third brake light'
> on the top of this. This will be a single row of
> LED's 'just showing' at the center of the rear
> window bottom.
>
> I already have wiring for my Instrument panel run
> so hooking it up will not be a problem. I had
> thought about the 'top' (I will replace the
> headliner someday) but figured it would block the
> vision thru the Rear View mirror.
>
> At some point, I need to replace the Rear View
> mirror, once I get that far forward!
>
> Dale cool smiley

I find any disruption to my rear view in the top center to be particularly annoying. My 2011 Ranger has a rear window slider that partially obscures the top center and I hate it. I have not hated it quite enough yet to replace the slider with a one piece glass however.

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Re: Third Brake Light? confused smiley
Posted by: richard1 ()
Date: January 06, 2019 06:30AM

I thought about it, then just converted the backup lights to tail lights, so have 4 brake lights, with the backup lights behind the air grill.

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Re: Third Brake Light? confused smiley
Posted by: Caraholic4life ()
Date: January 06, 2019 07:22AM

I have been considering adding a Yenko size and style spoiler to my deck lid and incorporating an older trunk mounted GM third brake light into the vertical space of the spoiler and run the wires down through the deck lid along side of the license plate light wire.
I have already got the parts, all I need to do is move forward with actually getting it done.

Note: The light is from a 1990 Cavalier and the Spoiler was cut off of a POS reproduction deck lid that wasn't worth using and was going into the trash.

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Re: Third Brake Light? confused smiley
Posted by: J. Yaros ()
Date: January 06, 2019 01:30PM

On my Vair, a convertible, I added a 3rd Brake Light incorporated into my rear license plate frame. I also converted back up lights to tail lights.



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Re: Third Brake Light? confused smiley
Posted by: oldqmguy ()
Date: January 06, 2019 02:50PM

I think I know where to install my 'third brake light' (bottom of rear window) now! drinking smiley

I have converted ALL bulbs (except Headlights) to LED's. This includes the Back Up lights! They are nice and bright so I don't want to give them up! eye rolling smiley

Thanks for all the replies! grinning smiley

Dale cool smiley

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Re: Third Brake Light? confused smiley
Posted by: subdude17349 ()
Date: January 07, 2019 10:23AM

I took a "universal" mount 3rd brake light and epoxied rare earth magnets to the feet. Stuck it on the air grill, with the wires running down thru the grill and to a quick disconnect I put in the wire harness.

Works great, and for shows I can disconnect it and pop it off.

Jim

65 Corsa Ct, 180/4, Blue/blue/white

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