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Late model Metallic brake question?
Posted by: ral1963 ()
Date: December 06, 2018 06:52AM

Was there a seperate option for Metallic brakes in 65, 66 or 67-69 or were they part of the HS Suspension option?

If so, what was the option code (ie F41 was 1966 HS suspension and N44 was 1966 quick ratio steering)?

What was the option for HD suspension in 65?

I looked through my notes and can't seem to find anything on factory Metallic brake option other then 62-64.

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Re: Late model Metallic brake question?
Posted by: jjohnsonjo ()
Date: December 06, 2018 07:53AM

I think they stopped the metallic after 64 because the 65 brakes were larger and had plenty of stopping power without using metallic. I heard some guys bought the pucks (meant for fleet cars) and made their own.

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Re: Late model Metallic brake question?
Posted by: texas yenko dude ()
Date: December 06, 2018 08:11AM

The Stingers came with them via special order. They were an option on the 67 Camaro (with drum brakes) and the Camaro brakes are opposite the Corvair (meaning the Camaro fronts are 2.5" wide and the Camaro rears are 2" wide). So, most of the 2.5" wide Camaro brake shoes do not have the provision for the parking brake cable.

FYI: I'm looking for more of these unicorns if anyone has some laying around.

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Re: Late model Metallic brake question?
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: December 06, 2018 08:39AM

Sold my last ones several years ago... to a racer..





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Re: Late model Metallic brake question?
Posted by: vairmech ()
Date: December 06, 2018 05:14PM

texas yenko dude Wrote:
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> The Stingers came with them via special order.
> They were an option on the 67 Camaro (with drum
> brakes) and the Camaro brakes are opposite the
> Corvair (meaning the Camaro fronts are 2.5" wide
> and the Camaro rears are 2" wide). So, most of
> the 2.5" wide Camaro brake shoes do not have the
> provision for the parking brake cable.
>
> FYI: I'm looking for more of these unicorns if
> anyone has some laying around.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

There are other options out there as far as shoe material that works very well under racing conditions.

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Re: Late model Metallic brake question?
Posted by: Seth Emerson ()
Date: December 06, 2018 05:33PM

The Metallics that the Corvair racers used in 65-66 were the ones from the 64-65-66 Chevelle. Swapped front to rear. No discs on Chevelles until 1967.

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Re: Late model Metallic brake question?
Posted by: BobV66Vair ()
Date: December 07, 2018 06:06AM

Ken, what are the alternatives to the metallic shoes? I have not found anything that would stand up to performance braking.

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Re: Late model Metallic brake question?
Posted by: v8vair ()
Date: December 07, 2018 06:34AM

Back in the 80s McIntosh (430 Buick Crown V8 Racer) was working for London Taxi here in Atlanta. The Cabbies were burning up brake shoes as fast as they could replace them so McIntosh emptied the warehouses of all the GM metallics. I remember seeing stacks of brake boxes at least 250 or more. So thats were all the fronts for a Corvair went sad smiley Mike

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Re: Late model Metallic brake question?
Posted by: caroseiii ()
Date: December 07, 2018 10:23AM

If there was a Group 3 code for later Corvairs, it would be the same option code as all the other four drum metallic cars made by Chevrolet, RPO J65. The vehicle information kits do not show a J65 option for Corvairs after 1963. For 1965 and later, these same brake parts were available over the counter by buying the Chevy II, Chevelle and Camaro items and swapping front to rear. See part nos. 3845291 and 3830635.

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Re: Late model Metallic brake question?
Posted by: Jim Stukenborg ()
Date: December 07, 2018 12:34PM

The GM plant (Delco-Moraine division) that made them here in Dayton, Ohio no longer exists. I believe all the tooling was scrapped. I'll ask around to see if anyone remembers the material formula and the process. Maybe someone can reproduce the lining pucks. Welding them to the shoes would not be a big deal. Jim

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Re: Late model Metallic brake question?
Posted by: caroseiii ()
Date: December 09, 2018 05:20AM

Jim, that would interesting to see. The Corvette sets are very costly and would probably be reproduced if someone sources the pucks.
Crawford Rose

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Re: Late model Metallic brake question?
Posted by: v8vair ()
Date: December 09, 2018 06:34AM

I have a set of Carbo Techs custom Metalic linings for the 64 Racer. The Guy at Carbo says these linings are superior to the old GM. I know the Chrome Bumper Vintage Nascar Guys use them and they have no Problem slowing Down those 4000 lb sleds. Ken Hand uses them on his Stinger racer on all 4 corners and has no issues. As soon as i get the 64 out i can give some feedback. Mike

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