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Front LM Springs
Posted by: gnrand ()
Date: November 30, 2018 07:27AM

I need to cut the new front springs on my Corsa to lower the front end by about 1-1.5 inches. I assume the cut should be at the top of the spring but I thought I would check first.
Thank you
Jeff

Wildomar,Ca

1965 Corsa Hard Top
!965 Corsa Convertible
1968 Monza 140 Convertible 4 speed
1966 435 HP Crown
1986 Buick GN

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Re: Front LM Springs
Posted by: 65180 ()
Date: November 30, 2018 10:41AM

Yes you want to cut the top of the coil. Cut one complete loop which should equate to a one inch drop. BTW, are you using HD coils?

Mike Lake
Tucson, Az
65 Corsa 180
65 Corsa 140 sold
66 Monza PG
66 Monza 4sp sold
61 Lakewood sold
61 La[corvaircenter.com]

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Re: Front LM Springs
Posted by: 66vairman ()
Date: November 30, 2018 01:11PM

I've had good luck just keeping the old front springs and installing new rears. Comes out level.

I you want a lower car - most just leave in the old srings and cut a coil off the front ones.

If your are running HD springs or want a raked look, that's a different story.

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Re: Front LM Springs
Posted by: gnrand ()
Date: November 30, 2018 03:08PM

These front springs were on my 65 convertible and the car sat low to the point it took out my spoiler over any bump. Bought springs for the convertible from Clarks and thought the old springs would be perfect in my 65 hardtop. Well it now sits higher then I like. I will take a look to make sure they are seated properly on the upper control arm.

Wildomar,Ca

1965 Corsa Hard Top
!965 Corsa Convertible
1968 Monza 140 Convertible 4 speed
1966 435 HP Crown
1986 Buick GN

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Re: Front LM Springs
Posted by: moomba32 ()
Date: November 30, 2018 07:08PM

I cut 1-1/2 from my fronts, left the worn rears in, removed the spacers that had ben installed on the rear. My car is lower than most would consider practical but I like it, rarely carry anything in the trunk and it's my car of choice for autocross. Someone had suggested I put a section of rubber hose over the end of the spring to keep it from making noise which I did.

Don Marlowe
66 Monza 2Dr 140/pg
64 Spyder convertible now, 110/pg
Eutawville SC

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Re: Front LM Springs
Posted by: hjackson3149 ()
Date: December 01, 2018 09:11AM

good afternoon all

I cut 2 loops out of all four stock springs.
handles real good and not to harsh of a ride with the sebring seats in her






Hank Jackson
South Florida
69 Monza PG
everybody has to believe in something and
I believe I will have another.
one for the Road!

The Three Stages of Christine

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Re: Front LM Springs
Posted by: Kyle_in_Mich ()
Date: December 01, 2018 04:12PM

moomba32 Wrote:
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> I cut 1-1/2 from my fronts, left the worn rears
> in, removed the spacers that had ben installed on
> the rear. My car is lower than most would consider
> practical but I like it, rarely carry anything in
> the trunk and it's my car of choice for autocross.
> Someone had suggested I put a section of rubber
> hose over the end of the spring to keep it from
> making noise which I did.


1 1/2 from regular springs or HD?

I've trimmed 1 ring off the front, I want just a bit more low, so I am thinking about taking 1/2 a coil off front and rear now. I like the car level, not leaning forward.

CORSA Member
Traverse City,MI
Daily driver- Bicycle
Fun driver/project- 65 Corsa 140/4 speed

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Re: Front LM Springs
Posted by: gnrand ()
Date: December 01, 2018 04:20PM

hjackson3149 Wrote:
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> good afternoon all
>
> I cut 2 loops out of all four stock springs.
> handles real good and not to harsh of a ride with
> the sebring seats in her
>
>
>
>
> [i67.tinypic.com]
A little to low for me but nice car.

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Re: Front LM Springs
Posted by: moomba32 ()
Date: December 02, 2018 05:56AM

Kyle_in_Mich Wrote:
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> moomba32 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I cut 1-1/2 from my fronts, left the worn rears
> > in, removed the spacers that had ben installed
> on
> > the rear. My car is lower than most would
> consider
> > practical but I like it, rarely carry anything
> in
> > the trunk and it's my car of choice for
> autocross.
> > Someone had suggested I put a section of rubber
> > hose over the end of the spring to keep it from
> > making noise which I did.
>
>
> 1 1/2 from regular springs or HD?
>
> I've trimmed 1 ring off the front, I want just a
> bit more low, so I am thinking about taking 1/2 a
> coil off front and rear now. I like the car level,
> not leaning forward.
I'm sure they are the factory springs on the car, not HD would be my guess. The car had mechanical spacers in the rear springs that were trying to level the car, I removed those and cut the front and the car has a little rake and now I have to be careful with driveways and speed bumps, that sort of thing, about the same as an 82 Vette I had years ago but this one corners much better.

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Re: Front LM Springs
Posted by: viewmaster ()
Date: December 02, 2018 07:17AM

FWIW, I took what the PO had done to the front springs in my project 4-door, a 65 Monza, and put them in my DD, a 65 500 4-door. 1 1/2 coils were cut from the top of the stock springs. Dropped the front a good amount. NOW...the rear is higher than it has been. (not good IMHO)

My story from yesterday. I took it for a spin, up the road, to the hardware store. Coming back down, which is about an 8-9% downgrade, I was cornering, at about 50MPH, and braking. The car, all of a sudden started to oversteer, and I had to react. Good thing I didnt over correct, as I would have been into oncoming traffic. Anybody else experience that, on a lowered front only, Corvair???

-m



Mike
'65 '500' Sedan 110 PG
'65 Monza Sedan turbo'd 110 SU conversion
Fresno, CA

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Re: Front LM Springs
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: December 02, 2018 08:07AM

Rear bumper may be higher... never experienced that..





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Re: Front LM Springs
Posted by: 4carbcorvair ()
Date: December 02, 2018 08:29AM

I installed new HD lowering springs. Front is 2 or 2.5 inches and rears 1 inch. Nothing like the ride of new springs. smiling smiley www.coilsprings.com

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Ronnie
Southern Maine.
www.dirigocorvairs.net
66 Corsa Convertible, 140, 4sp.
65 Monza Convertible, 110, PG.




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Re: Front LM Springs
Posted by: moomba32 ()
Date: December 03, 2018 02:01AM

I've gotten mine to oversteer a couple times being super aggressive in autocross with hard braking and cornering together.

Don Marlowe
66 Monza 2Dr 140/pg
64 Spyder convertible now, 110/pg
Eutawville SC

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Re: Front LM Springs
Posted by: Jim Stukenborg ()
Date: December 06, 2018 12:16PM

Maybe one of the racers out there can shed some light on Corvair oversteer tendencies while braking on a steep downhill turn. Jim

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Re: Front LM Springs
Posted by: artinva ()
Date: December 06, 2018 02:42PM

Sounds like "trailing throttle oversteer"

Letting off the gas/braking at speed in a turn will bring it on.
Keep your foot in it, in a turn.

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Re: Front LM Springs
Posted by: Caraholic4life ()
Date: December 07, 2018 01:49PM

hjackson3149 Wrote:
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> good afternoon all
>
> I cut 2 loops out of all four stock springs.
> handles real good and not to harsh of a ride with
> the sebring seats in her
>

OK, It looks great but....Now for the big questions.
Do your tires rub?
IF No, What size wheels? Width and backset / offset are you running?
Are you running the same width, backset / offset front and rear?
What size tires are you running?
Are you running the same size on front and rear, or are they different sizes?
Just curious.

1962 95 F.C. Van
1965 Monza Coupe
Westminster, Maryland

MID ENG enthusiast &
prior Kelmark owner.

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Re: Front LM Springs
Posted by: hjackson3149 ()
Date: December 08, 2018 05:04AM

Good morning all

15" BY 7, 4.25 backspace all around
195 65 15 tires all around
No rubbing at all even at full rack during uturns
Went with the same front and rear so I can rotate them
Also have disks up front
The best thing I did was to have a real good alignment done

Hank Jackson
South Florida
69 Monza PG
everybody has to believe in something and
I believe I will have another.
one for the Road!

The Three Stages of Christine

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Re: Front LM Springs
Posted by: Caraholic4life ()
Date: December 08, 2018 07:15AM

hjackson3149 Wrote:
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> Good morning all
>
> 15" BY 7, 4.25 backspace all around
> 195 65 15 tires all around
> No rubbing at all even at full rack during uturns
> Went with the same front and rear so I can rotate
> them
> Also have disks up front
> The best thing I did was to have a real good
> alignment done

Thanks,
Most folks have a difficult time figuring out just which specifications will work best for them. What you have posted will be beneficial not only to me, but I would guess many others trying to figure out what they want to go with.
I already have a set of 15 X 7 wheels but need to double check the backset as they came off my 1974 Firebird when I sold it in the late eighties and they are currently on my 1962 FC Van with 235-60-15's.
I was already strongly considering the 195-65-15's and this reinforces that thought. Now all I need to do is decide if I want to cut my springs before they go back in my car, and if so, do I want to go two coils up front and one out back, or something different. My car was sitting high up front before disassembly.

1962 95 F.C. Van
1965 Monza Coupe
Westminster, Maryland

MID ENG enthusiast &
prior Kelmark owner.

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