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Re: New home for Revived Mouse House 110 Engine
Posted by: Lane66m ()
Date: December 17, 2018 04:56PM

She is a daily driver but will be sorted out. Don't want surprises if I take her on trips.

Didn't get much done today. Set up mount for pump relay and pump power indicator light. Run the second wire to the low presure switch for pump control.

Had a Drs appointment for audiology tests for the VA, so the day got split up. Got back to hangar and started again, then I found I needed some more weather proof terminals for the relays. Add that to friends dropping by to talk and not much getting done. Quit for the day. Can't get going with frequent interruptions. More will get done tomorrow. Locking doors once I get inside.

Al Lane
Ellabell, GA 31308

1966 Monza Coupe, 110 hp, 4 Spd
1966 Monza More Door 110 hp, PG
1968 Camaro SS Coupe 350 CI 295+ hp PG
1964 Greenbrier Deluxe, 6 dr, 80 hp car engine, PG
1947 Farmall A tractor 15 hp


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Re: New home for Revived Mouse House 110 Engine
Posted by: Lane66m ()
Date: December 18, 2018 03:30PM

Here are 3 photos of the engine harness that I consider almost finished. Still have to wire the blower fan fused power wire into the engine harness connector.

The fuel pump control components all reside in the engine compartment, except for the fuse at the fuse box for the blue wire running to the back. If you notice, there is an indicator light by the relay. It will illuminate whenever the relay is pulled and there is power on the pump + wire. Another thing to note is that I have a 3 terminal low oil pressure switch connector. The original harness is not modified to account for the installation. The new connector is adapted with a 2 pin connector and a mate to accept the original switch connector.

One of the connector's plastic snap retainers broke off the body harness. We are going to take our best spare body harness and swap it into the car. Easier to do than swapping pins in a connector. We have the heat duct out for cleaning and sealing anyways.

Donna has been busy with the heat duct and also the two accelerator rods. She got the duct and rods removed in prep to install Roger Parent's improved pivot crank and other bushing replacements on the system. We decided the rusty rod needed cleaning and painting first. This has been done. It is waiting on harness replacement for its replacement.

So a busy day for the 5 hours we were there. Got 1 more day to get things done together, then Donna is off to visit family for Christmas. My Christmas present to her, instead of being here with me working on an old car.

Al Lane
Ellabell, GA 31308

1966 Monza Coupe, 110 hp, 4 Spd
1966 Monza More Door 110 hp, PG
1968 Camaro SS Coupe 350 CI 295+ hp PG
1964 Greenbrier Deluxe, 6 dr, 80 hp car engine, PG
1947 Farmall A tractor 15 hp


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Re: New home for Revived Mouse House 110 Engine
Posted by: Lane66m ()
Date: December 18, 2018 07:18PM

Another little glitch came up. Turn signals don't blink in dash. Got to check this out a little more, rear lights come for the side selected. I got the headlight bezels off and cleaned up grounds at the headlight mounts. But still have the issue. Will look into it a little more after I change the body harness. No work in the steering column or with harness from column or under dash. Headlight buckets and all related parts ere removed, cleaned and pained. That is why I went to the grounds first.

Probably will first run a long ground wire back to battery to eliminate a ground issue.

Al Lane
Ellabell, GA 31308

1966 Monza Coupe, 110 hp, 4 Spd
1966 Monza More Door 110 hp, PG
1968 Camaro SS Coupe 350 CI 295+ hp PG
1964 Greenbrier Deluxe, 6 dr, 80 hp car engine, PG
1947 Farmall A tractor 15 hp


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Re: New home for Revived Mouse House 110 Engine
Posted by: joelsplace ()
Date: December 18, 2018 07:24PM

One of my '66s do that and it works if I push on the lever harder. It seems to be getting better the more I drive it. Mine has to be in the switch.

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Re: New home for Revived Mouse House 110 Engine
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: December 18, 2018 07:38PM

Handy reference: Late turn signal connector wiring from CNICOL / in FAQ's

Inputs:
White - from brake switch
Purple - from turn signal flasher
Brown - from hazard flasher (67 up)

Outputs:
Dark blue - Right front signal lamp
Light blue - Left front signal lamp
Dark green - Right rear stop light
Yellow - Left rear stop light
Black - to horn relay (ground)



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Re: New home for Revived Mouse House 110 Engine
Posted by: Lane66m ()
Date: December 18, 2018 09:18PM

They worked fine before I tore apart the headlight buckets. So as they say, start where you last worked on the car. Maybe the mount plates and mount brackets need to be free of paint where they contact each other. My ground test will prove that out.

Al Lane
Ellabell, GA 31308

1966 Monza Coupe, 110 hp, 4 Spd
1966 Monza More Door 110 hp, PG
1968 Camaro SS Coupe 350 CI 295+ hp PG
1964 Greenbrier Deluxe, 6 dr, 80 hp car engine, PG
1947 Farmall A tractor 15 hp


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Re: New home for Revived Mouse House 110 Engine
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: December 18, 2018 09:39PM

That does make sense... I usually just add the wire...

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Re: New home for Revived Mouse House 110 Engine
Posted by: Lane66m ()
Date: December 19, 2018 03:30AM

If it fixes it, where to add the wire. Current ground wire is at the mount point. It means I have to take it out to burnish the mount point. Horns work so the ground is good for the bucket.

Al Lane
Ellabell, GA 31308

1966 Monza Coupe, 110 hp, 4 Spd
1966 Monza More Door 110 hp, PG
1968 Camaro SS Coupe 350 CI 295+ hp PG
1964 Greenbrier Deluxe, 6 dr, 80 hp car engine, PG
1947 Farmall A tractor 15 hp


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Re: New home for Revived Mouse House 110 Engine
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: December 19, 2018 07:01AM

All you can do is trace your ground with a meter.... you want less than 1/2 ohm resistance

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Re: New home for Revived Mouse House 110 Engine
Posted by: Lane66m ()
Date: December 19, 2018 09:57AM

Well it wasn't the grounds. A direct ground to battery didn't resolve issue. Went back to last spot touched. I lifted trunk plates over park light mounts. I had removed electrical connectors from lights to clean an paint area. Just touching connector returned normal operation. Got to figure a way to keep connectors to stay more into housing receptacles.

Al Lane
Ellabell, GA 31308

1966 Monza Coupe, 110 hp, 4 Spd
1966 Monza More Door 110 hp, PG
1968 Camaro SS Coupe 350 CI 295+ hp PG
1964 Greenbrier Deluxe, 6 dr, 80 hp car engine, PG
1947 Farmall A tractor 15 hp


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Re: New home for Revived Mouse House 110 Engine
Posted by: joelsplace ()
Date: December 19, 2018 10:16AM

Those contacts need to touch the bulb.

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Re: New home for Revived Mouse House 110 Engine
Posted by: Lane66m ()
Date: December 19, 2018 10:46AM

They were. Just showing type of connector for those who have yet to run into these types of connectors. Might just use a screwdriver and small hammer to tap top of slot closed slightly.

Al Lane
Ellabell, GA 31308

1966 Monza Coupe, 110 hp, 4 Spd
1966 Monza More Door 110 hp, PG
1968 Camaro SS Coupe 350 CI 295+ hp PG
1964 Greenbrier Deluxe, 6 dr, 80 hp car engine, PG
1947 Farmall A tractor 15 hp


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Re: New home for Revived Mouse House 110 Engine
Posted by: Lane66m ()
Date: December 19, 2018 02:15PM

Springs on park/turn light connectors are as extended as can be made possible. I will look at bulbs and squeezing receptacle to make a tighter fit later, lights are working for now.

Installed the accelerator rods and the improved aft pivot crank. Relooked at the body harness as whether to replace it. The best one I have was not as good as the one in the car. Slowly pulled a good male connector off a dismantled harness I tore apart for the test stand. Installed the plug one pin at a time from the old plug into the new plug. Not a single pin was damaged in the swap over.

Prep battery cables for installation by adding auxiliary 10 gage wires and terminals to them.

Pulled back wire harness as it was tangled in and around fuel and brake lines. I will get assembly manual out to get proper routing of harness and its clips. There are no clips holding the fuel and brake lines to the body (inside tunnel) right now. That will be resolved also.

Al Lane
Ellabell, GA 31308

1966 Monza Coupe, 110 hp, 4 Spd
1966 Monza More Door 110 hp, PG
1968 Camaro SS Coupe 350 CI 295+ hp PG
1964 Greenbrier Deluxe, 6 dr, 80 hp car engine, PG
1947 Farmall A tractor 15 hp


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Re: New home for Revived Mouse House 110 Engine
Posted by: Lane66m ()
Date: December 19, 2018 05:15PM

Just as a side note. I am moving the coil to the rear beam structure of the engine compartment. Unlike the horizontal mount behind the verical support seen on other Vairs, I will be mounting the coil vertically. This requires the coil bracket from a 1968 Camaro or similar type bracket. It will also require a longer coil wire. Seth provides a longer coil wire for A/C equipped engines which will work fine. I think vertical position is the best way to mount any coil, as the sealed joint is at the top near the terminals. If any leaks of the oil is going to occur, that is where it would be. Why lay it down to trust to luck and Chinese quality.

Al Lane
Ellabell, GA 31308

1966 Monza Coupe, 110 hp, 4 Spd
1966 Monza More Door 110 hp, PG
1968 Camaro SS Coupe 350 CI 295+ hp PG
1964 Greenbrier Deluxe, 6 dr, 80 hp car engine, PG
1947 Farmall A tractor 15 hp


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Re: New home for Revived Mouse House 110 Engine
Posted by: Lane66m ()
Date: December 20, 2018 03:01PM

I got the brake and fuel line secured to the floor pan today. Also got the body harness properly routed and secured to the floor pan. I then routed my 2 new wires in a flexible wire tube alongside the body harness and secured it to the harness,

I routed a 10 ga red wire from front to rear in preparation to someday split headlights off to their own supply source. Wire is in a red flexible wire tube. It will be routed and tied off tomorrow. No splices or connectors will be used on this wire for breaks in the wire except for the solder connection to the ATO fuse block.

Donna is missed these last 2 days being around to help out. She is now with her children and grandchildren in Texas.

Al Lane
Ellabell, GA 31308

1966 Monza Coupe, 110 hp, 4 Spd
1966 Monza More Door 110 hp, PG
1968 Camaro SS Coupe 350 CI 295+ hp PG
1964 Greenbrier Deluxe, 6 dr, 80 hp car engine, PG
1947 Farmall A tractor 15 hp


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Re: New home for Revived Mouse House 110 Engine
Posted by: Lane66m ()
Date: December 21, 2018 01:02PM

Continued working on the fuel pump and blower fan wiring. Got it fi wished up. I realized I did not join the blue power on light with the pump power lead terminal. Just as well. I used a piggyback terminal to wire in the light and put the pump power lead on the piggy back terminal.

Before connecting the body harness to the engine harness, I jumped the oil pressure connector terminals. I then applied power to new car safety circuit breaker. Using a jumper wire I applied battery power to the wire leading to the impact switch at the engine harness. This applied power to entire circuit with relay pulling in and power coming through fused wire to power pump wire and indicator light. Test successful. Final item done on system was to connect pump ground wire to structure.

Completed rest of blower fan motor wiring and connected body harness to engine harness. Tidied up harnesses with ty-wraps. Test of blower fan will be done tomorrow. I don't expect any surprises.

I did secure the fuel line to the structure. There was nothing supporting the line except the heater hose.

Al Lane
Ellabell, GA 31308

1966 Monza Coupe, 110 hp, 4 Spd
1966 Monza More Door 110 hp, PG
1968 Camaro SS Coupe 350 CI 295+ hp PG
1964 Greenbrier Deluxe, 6 dr, 80 hp car engine, PG
1947 Farmall A tractor 15 hp





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Re: New home for Revived Mouse House 110 Engine
Posted by: Lane66m ()
Date: December 31, 2018 05:36PM

Donna and I finished routing the 10 gauge wire for the headlights to the trunk. Used a hole saw to cut hole for head temp grommet to seal wire in wall next to trunk harness plug.

Shifter cable installation was completed. Awaiting panel installation.

Hooked up left heater hose support.

We disassembled instrument panel for cleaning and light checks. All lights good. Will be changing out red hi beam indicator to a blue one. I have a couple Monza panels with clocks, so a clock will be installed in this car. But it will be upgraded to a quartz movement clock.

PG transmission pan gasket and modulator gasket replaced. Governor o-ring replaced. This o-ring was hard and flat. Source of leak, I believe. Dipstick o-ring replaced and dipstick installed.

Hole in engine compartment wall for fresh air hose closed off with floor cover and body sealant.

Not a bad day for 4 1/2 hours.

Oh yes, American Mel loves pictures, so I have 9 for him tonight.

Al Lane
Ellabell, GA 31308

1966 Monza Coupe, 110 hp, 4 Spd
1966 Monza More Door 110 hp, PG
1968 Camaro SS Coupe 350 CI 295+ hp PG
1964 Greenbrier Deluxe, 6 dr, 80 hp car engine, PG
1947 Farmall A tractor 15 hp


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Re: New home for Revived Mouse House 110 Engine
Posted by: Lane66m ()
Date: December 31, 2018 05:44PM

Tunnel wiring & just aft of tunnel.

Al Lane
Ellabell, GA 31308

1966 Monza Coupe, 110 hp, 4 Spd
1966 Monza More Door 110 hp, PG
1968 Camaro SS Coupe 350 CI 295+ hp PG
1964 Greenbrier Deluxe, 6 dr, 80 hp car engine, PG
1947 Farmall A tractor 15 hp


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Re: New home for Revived Mouse House 110 Engine
Posted by: Wagon Master ()
Date: December 31, 2018 05:45PM

A lil late but did you happen to see what your voltage drop was to the feed wire at the horn relay? Plus it's like 2' away!

'29 Ford Model A Tudor
'61 700 Lakewood 110 4 speed
'69 Monza Convert. 140 Auto.
'70 Dodge Challenger R/T 440 4 speed

Been aircooled since 1973
Northwest Ohio



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Re: New home for Revived Mouse House 110 Engine
Posted by: Lane66m ()
Date: December 31, 2018 05:49PM

Wheel well and engine compartment.

Headlight wiring to be hooked up after engine is back in car.

American Mel, I missed one photo. I will get it tomorrow for you.

Al Lane
Ellabell, GA 31308

1966 Monza Coupe, 110 hp, 4 Spd
1966 Monza More Door 110 hp, PG
1968 Camaro SS Coupe 350 CI 295+ hp PG
1964 Greenbrier Deluxe, 6 dr, 80 hp car engine, PG
1947 Farmall A tractor 15 hp


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